Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Psychodidae ?

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 06-12-2008 20:18
#1

hi flyforum,

Look's a bit like Psychodidae spec., but the antenne doesn't fit well..

What kind of 'thing' is this?

size: ~1-1.5mm
date: 6-12-2008
place: Amsterdam forest, The Netherlands

Posted by pwalter on 06-12-2008 20:25
#2

I'm no expert but legs remind me of Chironomidae, also I've seen a lot of speimens with yellow-black coloration.
Walter

Posted by Klaas on 06-12-2008 20:25
#3

My first idea is Ceratopogonidae (female).

regards

Klaas

Posted by Xespok on 06-12-2008 22:34
#4

Female Chironomidae. Around Microtendipes.

Posted by Robert Heemskerk on 07-12-2008 21:25
#5

Yes Klaas, Ceratopogonidae is also a good option I think..


What's the diffence with Chironomidae? B)

Posted by Tony Irwin on 07-12-2008 22:10
#6

The main differences are in the wing venation and structure of the thorax. For an example of chironomid venation see http://www.dipter...to_id=1466 and for ceratopogonid venation see
http://www.dipter...d_id=17996. Note that both families have variation in the venation. Personally I think your specimen shows chironomid venation. The thoracic difference is that in chironomids the dorsum usually has a median groove along it. I think I can see this in your specimen. It certainly doesn't look like any ceratopogonid I've seen.

Edited by Tony Irwin on 07-12-2008 22:12

Posted by Klaas on 07-12-2008 22:10
#7

Ceratopogonidae was a first impression, mainly because of the broad wings. But i can't see biting mouthparts and the vein that ends up in the tip of the wing should be forked more distal. It seems to be not forked at all in your specimen - as in Chironomidae. So i think i was to quick:|


Klaas