Thread subject: Diptera.info :: What family ?
Posted by Christine Devillers on 01-12-2008 20:10
#1
An idea for this female ? (Belgium, 6-11-2008, size 4 mm)
Edited by Christine Devillers on 06-12-2008 22:49
Posted by Christine Devillers on 01-12-2008 20:12
#2
pic 2
Posted by Gordon on 02-12-2008 10:06
#3
Could have been helped by some wing venation. I am no expert but it looks like a Muscid that might be a Calliphorid.
Posted by Philippe moniotte on 02-12-2008 13:34
#4
Spilogona ????
Posted by Christine Devillers on 02-12-2008 18:21
#5
Thanks, I add some (bad) photos for the wing venation.
Vein M1 not curving forward and arista non plumose (if I see well) so not Calliphoridae.
Perhaps as you say Spilosoma or as for your post Muscidae of the Spilogona - Limnophora group but I don't know the features that must be seen.....and why not a female of Anthomyiidae ?
Posted by Christine Devillers on 02-12-2008 18:24
#6
2
Posted by Christine Devillers on 02-12-2008 18:25
#7
3
Posted by javanerkelens on 02-12-2008 20:20
#8
Looks Fanniidae to me....:)
Joke
Posted by Michael Ackland on 02-12-2008 21:46
#9
Don't think it's an anthomyiid, head looks wrong, and squamae too large. I would guess a Spilogona oor Fannia?
Posted by Christine Devillers on 03-12-2008 20:46
#10
Does it help with those photos of the vein Sc ?
Posted by Christine Devillers on 03-12-2008 20:48
#11
And on this one, it seems to have 2 pré DC ?
Edited by Christine Devillers on 04-12-2008 22:37
Posted by Christine Devillers on 06-12-2008 22:57
#12
dc
Edited by Christine Devillers on 10-12-2008 20:36
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 06-12-2008 23:36
#13
I agree that it doesn't have an Anthomyiidae face. Katepisternal arrangement could be 1:2 (difficult to see). If I'm not wrong, the frons bears a proclinate orbital. In combination with pd on t3, and narrow genae/parafacialiae, this leaves us
Thricops or
Hydrotaea...I can't see any that could match to this fly...
Nikita ?
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 06-12-2008 23:52
#14
I cannot even be
Hydrotaea, since there are only 3 post dc !
Really, I think this fly is for Michael. :)
Posted by Michael Ackland on 07-12-2008 12:31
#15
Sorry I can't really help, it could be a female anthomyiid. I would need to knoow the following: are there fine pale hairs under the tip of the scutellum?. Clear view of anal vein; dorsal setae on hind tibia; are there setulae under wing on costal vein?; is there a short setula under hind tarsus near base? None of these will show up on a general photo.
Does it look like a female Azelia? I don't have any muscids anymore in my collection.
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 07-12-2008 13:55
#16
I had thought to Azelia, looks very like indeed, but shouldn't have a pd on hind tibia. I give up.
Posted by Christine Devillers on 07-12-2008 21:55
#17
Thanks Stephane and Michael, and sorry but I hav'nt better photos. Perhaps if I see it again..