Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyiidae ? (Anthomyia liturata m)

Posted by Christine Devillers on 21-08-2008 16:42
#1

This fly was about 6mm (Belgium, 14-08-2008).
Is it a male of Anthomyiidae ?

Edited by Christine Devillers on 23-11-2008 18:35

Posted by Christine Devillers on 21-08-2008 16:44
#2

pic 2

Posted by Christine Devillers on 05-11-2008 20:52
#3

No idea for this one ?

Posted by Michael Ackland on 06-11-2008 12:29
#4

It's a male of Anthomyia, liturata group which don't have the black and white thoracic pattern of the pluvialis group. It is either Anthomyia liturata RD or confusanea Michelsen, the difference is in the genitalia. How do I recognize these two species? Because the crossveins are somewhat clouded which is unusual in Anthomyiidae. A. liturata is the more common species.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-11-2008 15:53
#5

Thank you, Michael!
26 Oct in Azerbaijan I collected Anthomyiid with plumose arista and infuscated crossveins. Now this mystery is clear to me

Posted by Christine Devillers on 06-11-2008 20:00
#6

Thanks a lot for those explanations.
I saw several male, and in FE they don't mention A. confusanea in Belgium (but perhaps not correct !), so I suppose that it is probably Anthomyia liturata.

Posted by Michael Ackland on 08-11-2008 09:55
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Your photo Nikita shows the typical 5th sternite in profile of these two species, projecting downwards. A. confusanea was only separated from liturata in 1985, so the distribution in FE is probably incomplete, based on dets by Michelsen and myself. I have found it flying with liturata in quite a few localities. The female (and to some extent the male) has traces of orange on the hind tibia.

Posted by Christine Devillers on 18-11-2008 21:14
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Thanks again. I didn't see traces of orange on hind tibia, and I've seen in your key that, on mid tibia, liturata has generally 2 ad setae (confusanea generally 1 ad setae). If the arrows on the following pictures show the 2 ad setae, could it be liturata ?

Posted by Christine Devillers on 18-11-2008 21:15
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Pic 2

Posted by Michael Ackland on 18-11-2008 22:53
#10

Exactly right Christine! At last someone is using my keys to good effect.

Posted by Christine Devillers on 20-11-2008 22:54
#11

Thanks Michael.
As I don't see Anthomyia liturata in the Gallery, I'll submit my photos.