Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Syrphidae? -> Eumerus sp.
Posted by javig on 13-02-2008 20:06
#1
Sierra Nevada, Granada, Spain. 2500 m. 1 July 07.
Bad photo, sorry.
Edited by javig on 14-02-2008 19:47
Posted by Andre on 13-02-2008 20:09
#2
Very interesting
Eumerus sp., male... Please collect it next time ;)
Posted by javig on 14-02-2008 19:49
#3
Thanks for the ID! :)
Posted by Andre on 14-02-2008 20:31
#4
Maybe it's
Eumerus tricolor... I am not home right now.. hope to remember to try to make a more accurate guess tomorrow.
Or maybe someone else does?
Posted by Maddin on 17-02-2008 23:40
#5
What about Eumerus nigrostriatus? It is really hard to tell from a picture - too many of these beautiful flies...
Posted by Andre on 18-02-2008 17:19
#6
Eyes are separated, while it's a male:
sabulonum/tricolor/ovatus. Can't see with certainty if the eyes are hairy (
tricolor/ovatus), but it looks like it.
Sabulonum may usually have more red on T3. Abdomen looks densely covered with silverish hairs; thorax looks to have a blueish shine. This makes me, at this stage, I'd vote for
ovatus.
@ Martin: as far as I know now,
nigrostriatus Lambeck, 1973 is a junior synonym of
etnensis Van der Goot, 1964 (same with
purpurariae Ba?z, 1982.
Etnensis male has eyes holoptic and bare.
Any comments... please! I am still studying on Iberian species.... :p
Posted by Maddin on 18-02-2008 17:48
#7
You are right with the synonym! But I am not so sure if the eyes are really separated... I agree it is a male and that the eyes could be dichoptic... I got some spanish Eumerus data if you are interested...
Cheers
Martin
Posted by Andre on 18-02-2008 18:18
#8
I am certainly interested Martin! Do you also have specimens?
Please contact my by email for further details etc.. thanks!
Posted by Maddin on 20-02-2008 00:10
#9
Hi Andre,
did you get my email?
cheers Martin
Posted by Andre on 20-02-2008 01:12
#10
01:10h local time: not yet
Posted by John Smit on 20-02-2008 08:45
#11
Hi Andre and Martin,
Just a comment on the synonymy stated by Andre, E. nigrostriatus Lambeck is indeed a synonym of E. etnensis Van der Goot. But E. purpureus Baez is a valid species, an endemic of the Canary Isles: Smit, J.T., Fraquinho Aguiar, A.M. & A. Wakeham-Dawson. 2004. The hoverflies (Diptera: Syrphidae) of the Madeira archipelago, Portugal. Dipterists Digest 11(1): 47-82.
But I have no ID yet for the species photographed here... Though I am sure it's not E. ovatus, to elongated and no silvery hairs visible at the tip of the aabdomen...
John
Posted by Andre on 20-02-2008 11:20
#12
John Smit wrote:
Hi Andre and Martin,
Just a comment on the synonymy stated by Andre, E. nigrostriatus Lambeck is indeed a synonym of E. etnensis Van der Goot. But E. purpureus Baez is a valid species, an endemic of the Canary Isles: Smit, J.T., Fraquinho Aguiar, A.M. & A. Wakeham-Dawson. 2004. The hoverflies (Diptera: Syrphidae) of the Madeira archipelago, Portugal. Dipterists Digest 11(1): 47-82.
John
Hi John. I didn't write
purpureus (I know that's a valid endemic species), but
purpurariae.
Posted by John Smit on 20-02-2008 11:44
#13
Hi Andre,
My fault, I meant E. purpurariae...
Both E. purpurariae and E. purpureus occur on the Canaries and both are mentioned in the paper refered to... I can't help people comming up with those confusing names.. ;)
John
Posted by Andre on 20-02-2008 12:06
#14
T?bem! Thank you John :)