Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tabanidae ID => Nemorius vitripennis (f)
Posted by basileus on 04-06-2023 12:00
#1
Is it possible to identify this one by such foto? June 2023. Western region of Ukraine.
Edited by basileus on 11-06-2023 12:33
Posted by Zeegers on 05-06-2023 17:22
#2
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.
Theo
Posted by John Carr on 05-06-2023 19:06
#3
Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.
Theo
Silvius latifrons graecus was reported from Turkey, Çanakkale province along the Dardanelles (
Kılıç 2001). Is
graecus still a subspecies?
Posted by Zeegers on 05-06-2023 19:20
#4
Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (sub)species in case of allopatric taxa ?
Theo
Posted by basileus on 05-06-2023 20:42
#5
Zeegers wrote:
Well, this seems to be a big surprise: female of Silvius latifrons, which has two separated populations: Caucasus and Greece. This might fill the gap.
Theo
Wow! I don't even know what to say about this?
Posted by Zeegers on 05-06-2023 21:12
#6
it is not (yet) 100 %, it is 99%.
catch one and/or make a razorsharp pic of the antenna
(yes, I know, it is not easy)
Theo
Posted by John Carr on 06-06-2023 09:33
#7
Zeegers wrote:
Thanks, John !
Well, how to define a (sub)species in case of allopatric taxa ?
Theo
One of the American
Drosophila researchers used to test reproductive compatibility with existing species before describing a new species.
Posted by Zeegers on 06-06-2023 18:28
#8
Well done, I do applaud this apprisch, but highly theoretical in nearly all cases, alas..Theo