Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tetanocera can be identified to species level?

Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-10-2022 13:30
#1

On a Rubus leaf. Body length ca. 8 mm. Spain: Girona, 2.x.2022

[Séguy 1934]
Des chètules propleuraux plus ou moins nombreux. [?]
Espace interoculaire luisant [au moins] au bord antérieur.
Antennes: troisième article deux fois plus long que le deuxième.
Espace interoculaire luisant sur la plus grande partie.
Ailes claires à la nervure costale étroitement ombrée au sommet sculement.
Occiput avec deux taches blanches séparées par une bande noire. [brown?]
Une ombre brune sur les gènes à la base des antennes.
Aile: bord costal nettement bruni à l'apex.
Antennes: troisième article pointu, plus do deux fois plus long que le deuxième.
Corps d'un brun roux.
Long.: 7-8 mm.
T. hyalipennis

Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-10-2022 13:31
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Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-10-2022 13:32
#3

Is the frons completely lustrous ?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137553346

Posted by John Carr on 05-10-2022 14:29
#4

Are you asking the meaning of the sentence with the question mark? Propleuron more or less setulose.

Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-10-2022 15:07
#5

John Carr wrote:
Are you asking the meaning of the sentence with the question mark? Propleuron more or less setulose.


Well, I'm not sure if there are small bristles or not on the propleuron.

The other big question is if Seguy 1934 keys are still useful for european Tetanocera. The other keys I found are not free download.

And the last question is if genitalia is needed to get a species name.

Edited by rafael_carbonell on 23-10-2022 18:04

Posted by rafael_carbonell on 21-10-2022 18:09
#6

Or perhaps Tetanocera silvatica as suggested here? https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/137553346

Posted by clovis on 26-10-2022 13:22
#7

If you read french, I suggest you use Vala 1989, really good book ;) And it cover your area.

For frons, better angle would be from front and a bit upward.
Frons doesn't look shiny to Me, I'd bet on T ferruginea.
You can exclude T hyallipennis anyway, costa is a bit darkned in this species.

Posted by rafael_carbonell on 25-01-2023 00:13
#8

Thanks, clovis! I bought Vala 1989, but difficult to use with not other references or pinned specimens. I take note on your suggestion.