Thread subject: Diptera.info :: weird big flies Switzerland

Posted by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 14:45
#1

Locality: Bern, Switzerland, near dead pig (experiment). Thanks for any closer ID.

2 weird looking freshly emerged flies. They dont look like the classic necrophagous fauna...

Posted by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 14:45
#2

2nd pic of the first one

Posted by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 14:46
#3

2nd fly

Posted by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 14:46
#4

2nd pic of the 2nd fly

Posted by John Carr on 20-12-2021 15:00
#5

Possibly Lucilia.

Posted by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 15:18
#6

Thanks John, but I dont think they are Lucilias. None of them. Necrophagous Calliphoridae I can ID, but these two are... weird.

Posted by John Carr on 20-12-2021 15:36
#7

I just noticed the orange hairs at the bottom of the head, so maybe Calliphora instead.

Posted by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 15:49
#8

Yes, I think the first could actually be C. vomitoria. But the second one... I have no idea :P

Posted by Zeegers on 20-12-2021 18:18
#9

First one definitely vomitoria.

Second one, I think you are misled. I don’t see why it can’t be a Calliphora. Calypter seems dark.

Theo

Posted by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 19:18
#10

Thanks Theo. I think you are right. But the second one has white calypters, which would mean its subalpina. Its possible, I have 2 other adults from there, but no caterpillar and this one is clearly a freshly emerged specimen.

Edited by Jiri Hodecek on 20-12-2021 19:18