Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sarcophagidae with golden parafacialia--> Amobia signata
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-09-2021 12:25
#1
One of a pair of flesh flies reared from a Crabronidae nest, 8/july/2021 (Spain: Catalonia: Girona: Girona city), 7.2 mm. Any guess of a species?
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 11-09-2021 22:38
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-09-2021 12:28
#2
Lateral
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-09-2021 12:30
#3
Dorsal
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-09-2021 12:53
#4
Ventral--- it must be a female, I think
Posted by John Carr on 05-09-2021 13:51
#5
Genus
Amobia (row of hairs in place of orbital bristles).
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 05-09-2021 19:04
#6
Thanks John, here in Spain there are only two species recorded, A.oculata and A.signata. It looks different to them, and somehow similar to the australian A.auriceps, but being a female it must be difficult to run a species, I guess
Posted by Zeegers on 06-09-2021 10:07
#7
?? Looks like a male to me. Check the genitalia
Theo
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 06-09-2021 15:00
#8
Thanks Theo. It is in the steam chamber now. I was used to e. g.
Lucilia males with well exserted genitalia and so I thought it was a female...
Posted by Zeegers on 06-09-2021 17:41
#9
Well, genitalia are highly informative in Amobia, so keep us posted
We need a lateral shot (of the genitalia)
Theo
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 07-09-2021 11:08
#10
I have little experience so it was with KOH only 5 min
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 07-09-2021 11:09
#11
With only transmitted light
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 07-09-2021 11:10
#12
Should I macerate it more time ? Or split the capsule from the rest ? I only hope is not too late
Posted by Jan Willem on 07-09-2021 12:30
#13
I guess this should be
Amobia signata, but let the experts respond!
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 07-09-2021 15:02
#14
after 10 min KOH
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 07-09-2021 15:04
#15
more dried, some appendages pushed backwards
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 10-09-2021 11:45
#16
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/94307413
Thomas Pape has been written
Posted by Jan Willem on 10-09-2021 14:22
#17
Maybe Theo can say more now you posted the pictures of the genitalia.
Posted by Zeegers on 10-09-2021 19:33
#18
Yes, he can !
Very clearly A. signata (unless you have some cryptic Iberian endemic)
Theo
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 11-09-2021 22:14
#19
Thanks! Theo and Jan:)