Posted by Niek van Wijk on 17-11-2007 08:13
#1
Dear fly-forum,
I took this picture September 15th on low foliage near a pond in my garden. I believe it to be Tipula paludosa. Can anyone confirm this or correct me?
Best regards, Niek
Edited by Niek van Wijk on 17-11-2007 08:16
Posted by Niek van Wijk on 18-11-2007 10:18
#2
Insufficient details visible to identify? Please advise,
Regards, Niek
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 18-11-2007 14:39
#3
we must wait for Chen Young. ;) He just appears sometimes here.
Posted by Niek van Wijk on 18-11-2007 16:15
#4
Thank you for your message, Jorge.
Regards, Niek
Posted by Chen Young on 21-11-2007 16:43
#5
Hi Jorge, thank you very much for your confidence in me. However, I have to decline the honor since I have very inadequate knowledge on the fauna and phenology of European crane flies. All I can help out here is limited to the family or generic level identification. But, don?t give it up, we just have to wait patiently since the crane fly fauna of Europe has been intensively investigated and well documented, plus the majority of crane fly researchers are located in Europe. Soon or later one of them will show up to participate in the joy of identification.
As for the image here, it does look like a female in the Tipula (Tipula) group. Three species T. paludosa, T. oleracea, and T. subcunctans have been recorded in the Netherlands. Male genitalia are needed to tell them apart. T. paludosa and T. oleracea can also be separated by the distance between their eyes on the bottom of their head. See
here for further info.
Edited by Chen Young on 21-11-2007 19:43
Posted by Niek van Wijk on 21-11-2007 16:59
#6
Dear Chen,
Thank you for your detailed response and for the very interesting link.
Best regards, Niek