Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae-> Pollenia leclercqiana ??

Posted by Nacho Cabellos on 21-07-2019 18:08
#1

Jebel Bouachem NR. Mediterranean scrub. North of Morocco. 500 m. 19/4/2019

Edited by Nacho Cabellos on 04-01-2020 19:41

Posted by Nacho Cabellos on 29-12-2019 21:27
#2

Any idea?
Is the correct family?

Posted by Zeegers on 30-12-2019 09:30
#3

Yes, looks like a Calliphorid. Beyond that, you are on your own (unless you collected some). Silvery abdominal tip should be a big clue.

Theo

Posted by johnes81 on 30-12-2019 10:32
#4

Hello Nacho and Theo,

so what is wrong with Pollenia? only Onesia would be black like this and it is not an Onesia sp.

Best wishes,
John

Posted by Zeegers on 30-12-2019 15:47
#5

Well, it is from Morocco, so I am cautious....

Parafacial seems a bit narrow for Pollenia.

Theo

Posted by johnes81 on 30-12-2019 16:13
#6

Zeegers wrote:
Parafacial seems a bit narrow for Pollenia.


absolutely, unless we consider Pollenia leclercqiana, which has a very narrow frons (about the same width as the anterior ocelli). Pollenia leclercqiana has been recorded from Morocco by Lehrer (I think so). Lehrer describes Pollenia leclercqiana as having a petiolate, closed or open r4+5. To my knowledge, only the atramentaria group is black, so it should be Pollenia leclercqiana. It certainly isn't amentaria/moravica, atramentaria or vera. genitalia is better in this case.

I am not an expert but I think that Polenia fits well

Best wishes and Happy Holidays,
John

Posted by Nacho Cabellos on 04-01-2020 19:40
#7

thanks a lot!!

Actualy I didn't think in Pollenia, but it seems to fit very well. Nevertheless I'm agree with Theo about to be cautious with african flies (with the european ones too, :) )