Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Clusiidae ID please

Posted by Carnifex on 11-05-2019 23:55
#1

Hi,
could this be Clusiodes caledonicus? Found on a log in a park in Vienna.

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Posted by Carnifex on 25-07-2019 18:37
#2

up :)

Posted by Carnifex on 02-08-2019 12:43
#3

No Clusiid experts around? Anybody knows of a family key for European species?

Posted by Jan Willem on 02-08-2019 18:32
#4

Londsdale, O. & S.A. Marshall, 2007. Redefinition of the genera Clusiodes and Hendelia (Diptera: Clusiidae: Clusiodinae), with a review of Clusiodes. Studia dipterologica 14: 117-159.

Looks like the post-vertical bristles (lying directly behind the ocellar triangle) may have been broken off. If not, it would point to C. verticalis. Having a better view on the genitalia might give information to come to an identification.

Posted by Carnifex on 02-08-2019 20:52
#5

Unfortunately, I cannot get access to the paper, should the genitalia better be seen lateral or ventral?
C. verticalis has not been reported from Austria. Anyways, I will try to get better images next week.

Posted by Carnifex on 07-08-2019 21:55
#6

I looked at it again: 3 fronto-orbitals and a thin postvertical bristle. So that would make it C. albimanus?

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Edited by Carnifex on 11-08-2019 08:08

Posted by Carnifex on 07-08-2019 22:29
#7

But on the same log (different month), also found this fly and could it be Clusiodes verticalis this time?

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