Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Flies from Israel

Posted by GlassOWater on 26-09-2007 17:40
#1

Hello everyone,
Here are a few pictures of flies I have lying around undetermined.

To the first one: I originally thought this to be Lucilia sericata, but it was suggested to me that this is in fact a muscid. Seems failiar?

Posted by GlassOWater on 26-09-2007 17:42
#2

Oops, I thought I cropped it a lot tighter...

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 26-09-2007 18:19
#3

Yes, Muscidae. Neomyia, and I think I can say cornicina, even if it is from Israel.
And Welcome ! :)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-09-2007 18:33
#4

israel!!! You have over there Dorceus spider!! (Eresidae) I hope to see some photos of Dorceus as well. ;)

Which part of Israel? Near Sinai Mountains? :D

Posted by GlassOWater on 27-09-2007 14:05
#5

Thanks! You replied much faster than I had expected!

We have a lot (If not most) European species, while some color difference does exist sometimes.

I live in Jerusalem, and I've seen the famous velvet spiders of course. No picture, though. I like the species eith the yellow male (I mean, you have red salticids, so the red Eresus is not to special).

And if we're done with the first one, let's move on to the next one: Any chance for a determination of species within Cylindromiya?

Posted by Xespok on 27-09-2007 15:34
#6

Please follow the 1 species - 1 thread rule.

Posted by GlassOWater on 27-09-2007 15:58
#7

Ok sorry. I will open a new thread then.

Posted by GlassOWater on 27-09-2007 18:19
#8

How can you tell Neomyia cornicina and N. viridiscens apart? They look the same to me. :o

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 27-09-2007 18:23
#9

Differing chaetotaxy :
N. cornicina -> 1 presut ac and 3 post dc
N. viridescens -> 0 presut ac and 4 post dc

Greetings.

Posted by GlassOWater on 27-09-2007 18:41
#10

Hmmm... I need some more help. I understand what is chaetotaxy, but I do not understand the rest. What is ac/dc (Not current types, I assume...)

Posted by ChrisR on 27-09-2007 18:54
#11

ac - acrostichal bristles (the 2 longitudinal rows in the middle of the dorsum)
dc - discocentral bristles (the 2 longitudinal rows outside the ac)
presut - presutural (anterior to the transverse thoracic suture)
post - postsutural (posterior to the transverse thoracic suture)

:)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 27-09-2007 18:58
#12

GlassOWater you SHOULD see this post >>
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I highly recommend to read all the thread. ;) See the other one as well (about the lateral view of thorax - not finished yet.) >>
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Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 27-09-2007 19:02