Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pretty sphecid wasp... Ammophila?
Posted by Isidro on 22-08-2007 07:04
#1
This one was at Benasque valley (Huesca, Aragon, Spain), in medium Pyrenees (1200 meters high) two weeks ago. Sizes about 30-35 mm. long.
Is so beautiful... What species can be?
Posted by pierred on 22-08-2007 08:04
#2
Hello,
I think
Prionyx kirbii (head towards the ground and witish stripes on the back of the tergites).
Posted by Isidro on 22-08-2007 09:16
#3
Thanks Pierred! Then, is a Pompilid...
More opinions welcome ;)
Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 22-08-2007 10:19
#4
Its a female Prionyx kirbii and therefore a Sphecidae and not a Pompilidae. The species in unique in Europe by the marked white tergal bands, and more ore less common south of the Alps.
regards, Christian
Posted by Isidro on 22-08-2007 11:47
#5
Ohh! All my life I mistaked the Prionyx puting it in the Pompilidae family...! Thanks by the note and the confirmation.
One thing more... It belongs to Sceliphrinae sub-family? Can you tell my what Iberian genus belongs to this sub-family?
Edited by Isidro on 22-08-2007 11:51
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-08-2007 12:51
#6
pronotum doesn't touch tegula so Sphecidae. :)
Posted by Christian Schmid-Egger on 22-08-2007 15:04
#7
To Isidro,
the situation is somewhat more complicated. The new family Sphecidae (excluding Crabronidae with the majority of 'Sphecid' wasps) comprises some Tribes (in Spain):
Sceliphronini with genera Sceliphron and Chalybion is one, Sphecini with most other genera is annother (Sphex, Isodontia, Prionyx, Chilosphex, Palmodes). A third tribe isAmmophilini with Ammophila, Podalonia and some other genera.
If you google for 'Pulawski' and 'Sphecidae' you will find more information in the net
Regards, Christian
Posted by Isidro on 22-08-2007 15:40
#8
Many thanks Christian. I said this, because I know a specialist in some Hymenoptera groups and, between these groups are the Sceliphrinae but no other Sphecids.
Thanks again!
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-08-2007 18:44
#9
Christian Schmid-Egger wrote:
Its a female Prionyx kirbii and therefore a Sphecidae and not a Pompilidae. The species in unique in Europe by the marked white tergal bands, and more ore less common south of the Alps.
regards, Christian
this photo was taken last year:
Prionyx lividocinctus.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 22-08-2007 18:45
#10
Christian Schmid-Egger wrote:
To Isidro,
the situation is somewhat more complicated. The new family Sphecidae (excluding Crabronidae with the majority of 'Sphecid' wasps) comprises some Tribes (in Spain):
Sceliphronini with genera Sceliphron and Chalybion is one, Sphecini with most other genera is annother (Sphex, Isodontia, Prionyx, Chilosphex, Palmodes). A third tribe isAmmophilini with Ammophila, Podalonia and some other genera.
If you google for 'Pulawski' and 'Sphecidae' you will find more information in the net
Regards, Christian
Christian
Please can you clarify the difference between Crabronidae and Sphecidae? :)
Posted by Isidro on 22-08-2007 23:41
#11
this photo was taken last year:
Prionyx lividocinctus.
For you ;)
Prionyx viduatus
