Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyia procellaris?---> Anthomyia quinquemaculata

Posted by Heteropteran on 14-08-2016 15:58
#1

Istanbul, Turkey
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Edited by Heteropteran on 15-08-2016 21:37

Posted by Heteropteran on 14-08-2016 16:01
#2

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Posted by javanerkelens on 14-08-2016 19:53
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When we look in Fauna Europea many Anthomyia species do not occur in European Turkey (Istanbul) including A. procellaris and A. pluvialis.
Probable just because a lack of research on Anthomyiidae.
I don’t think this is A. procellaris (the postsutural black spot does not broadly confluent with the small black spot above wing base), …so it could be A. pluvialis, but I am not convinced it really is, just because I expect there are many other Anthomyia species possible for (European)Turkey.

I would keep it for now as Anthomyia species.
Best way for a correct identification, is to collect specimen and prepare the genitals.

Johanna

Edited by javanerkelens on 14-08-2016 19:54

Posted by Heteropteran on 14-08-2016 20:31
#4

I photographed A. procellaris, A. pluvialis and A. confuseana from the same location I photographed this specimen. The median black stripe on the middle of the anterior lobe of pronotum is not present neither in A. procellaris nor in A. pluvialis. What do you think about this fact?

Edited by Heteropteran on 14-08-2016 21:09

Posted by Heteropteran on 14-08-2016 21:08
#5

A. pluvialis
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A. procellaris
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A. confusanea
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Posted by javanerkelens on 14-08-2016 22:24
#6

The darker line between the presutural spots on mesonotum, maybe could indicate A. quinquemaculata, but I really need to see the genitals.
Outer characters such as the black spots can vary in Anthomyia.
Often the differents between species only can be found by the shape of the gonites.
See: http://www.anthom...omyia.html

Johanna

Edited by javanerkelens on 14-08-2016 22:25

Posted by Heteropteran on 15-08-2016 08:58
#7

I also noticed something while photographing this specimen. Other Anthomyia species are always sitting on the main body of the trees. But this one was not on a tree.
I will try to collect it but they fly very fast!

Posted by Heteropteran on 15-08-2016 21:32
#8

I checked the male genitalia. Perfectly matching with Anthomyia quinquemaculata, a species known already from Turkey according to Fauna Europea! Thank you alot for the help!

Posted by Heteropteran on 15-08-2016 22:04
#9

I saw that the website you linked is prepared by you! It is a very great and helpful website! Thank you alot for it :D
http://www.dipter...d_id=66668

Edited by Heteropteran on 15-08-2016 22:05

Posted by javanerkelens on 15-08-2016 22:20
#10

Nice!

Johanna :)

Posted by Heteropteran on 16-08-2016 08:40
#11

You can use all of these photos in your website if you want!

Edited by Heteropteran on 16-08-2016 08:40

Posted by evdb on 08-10-2019 08:59
#12

Unfortunately, link http://www.anthomyiidae.nl/genus-anthomyia.html is brocken !