Thread subject: Diptera.info :: 7 days trying to know... a muscid fly ---> Helina evecta (female)
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:21
#1
Muscidae with some wing veins infuscated found at home (february the 7th 2016, IBERIA: Girona: Beuda: 400 masl)
And getting very fustrated :(:after following Séguy and Nearctic diptera, ....
What I did wrong?:|
Lispe? :(Phaonia? :(Helina? :( Nothing fits well enough
I made a nice collage:P, although resolution may fail,...
NOTE: The last two pictures of the collage have an error of interpretation
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 12-03-2016 00:30
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:27
#2
Full resolution image:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10936377/Helina%2020160207%20f%20MT2.jpg
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:34
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:33
#3
... and I forgot the scutellum
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:35
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:36
#4
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Edited by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:37
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 09-03-2016 21:36
#5
Rafael,
I think your mistake come from the pd on t3 : they are actually ad (an ad are actually av).
Try to see if you can find some small setulae under scutellum as well as small setulae on meron : if, so, it is
Helina evecta.
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 00:12
#6
Thanks Stephane!
I will correct that
Rafael
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 22:18
#7
I add the picture af the hind leg corrected
Anyway I think Séguy must be obsolete (I got
Phaonia candicans)
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 22:19
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 22:33
#8
The scutellum
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 22:35
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 22:36
#9
... and the meron
The new corrected collage at full resolution is at
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10936377/Helina%2020160207%20f%20MT4.jpg
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 11-03-2016 09:49
#10
Rafael, I can see other little mistakes on your montage : the seta pointed in yellow is not the supra-alar, but the pre-alar, and it is not the katepimeron but the katepisternum.
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 11-03-2016 23:21
#11
Thanks for correcting. I hope in the future my montage can be useful (specially if it's correct) for somebody else.
The montage of Helina evecta female at full resolution:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10936377/Helina%20evecta%2020160207%20f%20MT.jpg
I wrote the anatomical parts following the tachinid mosch web site:
http://www.tachinidae.eu/definition/definition.htm#
But I see it is a bit simplified
Best wishes
Rafael
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 12-03-2016 00:29