Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Bibionidae; Bibio

Posted by kurt on 20-05-2013 18:11
#1

What species could this 5 mm female be? I thought of pomonae but coloring on legs does not fit.

Photos from 20 may 2013 Kramfors 62 N, E 17 Ã…ngermanland, Sweden.

Thanks for your help in advance

Regards
Kurt Holmqvist

Posted by Sundew on 20-05-2013 18:51
#2

B. pomonae is active much later in summer. Red-legged spring species are B. lanigerus and B. johannis. The females are hardly separable. Also B. femoralis should be kept in mind (http://www.dipter...d_id=20163).
Regards, Sundew

Posted by kurt on 20-05-2013 19:11
#3

Thanks for your help Sundew.

What about B. varipes? Is that also a possibility?
Kurt Holmqvist

Posted by Sundew on 20-05-2013 19:52
#4

I have not seen this species myself. However, the problem is that your fly is a female. The males can be told apart more easily. Theo Zeegers, who is very good in Bibionids, once said "Not possible to separate lanigerus, varipes, reticulatus." (http://www.dipter...d_id=30037) You can add johannis to the list as well. Look for the male :D!

Posted by John Carr on 20-05-2013 20:00
#5

The inner spur of the fore leg seems too long for Bibio johannis.

Posted by Zeegers on 21-05-2013 11:33
#6

That is, not possible to separate from picture.

Also the light due to the flash might be misleading.
The posterior veins seems dark, in which case nigriventris comes to mind. Impossible to judge the antennal length, though.


Theo

Posted by kurt on 22-05-2013 20:11
#7

Thanks to all of you for trying to help.

Here comes 2 photos of male from same place but one day later.

Is it possible to tell which species this is?

Posted by kurt on 22-05-2013 20:12
#8

And a more dorsal

Posted by Zeegers on 22-05-2013 21:02
#9

Yes, that helps

This clearly shows the male of Bibio johannis

see for a full treatment, thanks to Sundew

http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=54712


Theo