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Posted by Maherjos on 01-05-2013 19:28

Photograph taken on May 01, 2013, in Mountain area about 15 kilometers from the Mediterranean coast.
Coastal area in southern Spain

Apparent size with wings, about 8-9 mm

Thanks in advance for any help!

Edited by Maherjos on 02-05-2013 17:02

Posted by Maherjos on 01-05-2013 21:39

John Carr wrote:
Probably Anthomyia near pluvalis, with several similar species in Europe.

Very grateful for their identification.
With your guidance I edit the title, hoping that some other specialist also wants to give us their opinion.

Kind regards
José Marín.

Posted by Michael Ackland on 02-05-2013 12:50

I think it is more likely to be Anthomyia imbrida female. One can't be certain with female Anthomyia as the shape of the black scutal spots can vary from place to place, but the postsutural lateral black spot in the photo is not really like pluvialis. The best way to be sure about the females is to catch some males in the vicinity and examine the genitalia, as sternite V in profile is very characteristic for all the species

Posted by Maherjos on 02-05-2013 17:01

Michael Ackland wrote:
I think it is more likely to be Anthomyia imbrida female. One can't be certain with female Anthomyia as the shape of the black scutal spots can vary from place to place, but the postsutural lateral black spot in the photo is not really like pluvialis. The best way to be sure about the females is to catch some males in the vicinity and examine the genitalia, as sternite V in profile is very characteristic for all the species

Thank you very much, the interesting information you provide.

I should clarify, that I'm just a fan of diptera. I manage to be able to take pictures. But though I have a microscope, I have no capacity to do studies genitalia of specimens that can be photographed.

It is also true, that the fly photographed, was the only one I could find in the area. Neither other male specimens, nor other female specimens.

So, if the pictures can not come to fruition the species, we must remain in doubt of his complete identification.

Another question is, which can be deduced, taking into account the species of Anthomyia that may be present in Spain, or Europe.

I know that Anthomyia pluvalis, if present in Spain. But, I do not know if Anthomyia imbrida is or not referenced in Spain. Perhaps you, the experts, if you may know.

Best Regards from southern Spain.

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 02-05-2013 18:32

#10

Yes, it can be found in Spain ;)

But I always thought that female Anthomyia were impossible to ID from pictures. Great to know they are not so impossible |t A new challange in front of me :D

Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 02-05-2013 18:35

Posted by Maherjos on 02-05-2013 19:46

#11

Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
Yes, it can be found in Spain ;)

But I always thought that female Anthomyia were impossible to ID from pictures. Great to know they are not so impossible |t A new challange in front of me :D

Courage Piluca,! |t . Hopefully one day they can identify ... :D
While we can only wait ... :|

Big greetings