Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tipula vittata

Posted by Sundew on 29-04-2013 17:08
#1

Hello,
This weekend I saw this Tipulid male in the same swampy place east of Berlin where I photographed similar females ovipositing in the mud some years ago. What about Tipula lateralis?
Thanks for help. Sundew

Edited by Sundew on 01-06-2013 21:24

Posted by Juergen Peters on 29-04-2013 19:11
#2

Hello, Sundew!

Sundew wrote:
Tipula lateralis?


I think so. Saw the first one here in Ostwestfalen last week in a damp place at a meadow creek. This is usually the earliest Tipula species here in spring.

Posted by Sundew on 01-05-2013 20:26
#3

Well, as to the white line on the wings I meanwhile tend to T. vittata!

Posted by Juergen Peters on 01-05-2013 20:51
#4

Hello, Sundew!

Sundew wrote:
Well, as to the white line on the wings I meanwhile tend to T. vittata!


You may be right. Compared to the male I photographed this afternoon, also the abdomen seems too light.

Edited by Juergen Peters on 01-05-2013 20:52

Posted by Sundew on 01-05-2013 21:22
#5

There are more important differences. T. lateralis and T. vittata belong to different subgenera, Yamatotipula and Acutipula. http://www.bugsan...%20p1.html says: "The Yamatotipula sub-genus is identified by the thin line running down the top of the thorax from just behind the head." This line in the middle of the thorax can be seen in your photo. Also the wing colouration is quite different. The T. vittata wings are described "The wings have 'smoky' areas along the leading and trailing edges separated by a strikingly white streak at the wing tip. This one also sports a prominent dark 'Y' shaped vein towards the wing trailing edge." This goes with my upper picture fine.

Edited by Sundew on 01-05-2013 21:22

Posted by clovis on 02-05-2013 10:12
#6

I agree on T (Acutipula) vittata for the first one and T (Yamatotipula) sp. for the second one :)