Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chloropidae <Diptera from East Turkey

Posted by Cesa on 18-02-2013 22:02
#1

This species was photographed on 13 May 2010 from Van prov. Any help on ID of it, will be very much appreciated. Muhabbet

Edited by Cesa on 19-02-2013 04:35

Posted by piros on 18-02-2013 22:17
#2

I'd suggest Chloropidae, may be changing the title would attract the attention of specialists.
Best regards,
Henrik

Posted by Cesa on 19-02-2013 04:36
#3

Thank you Henrik, good idea!

Posted by Sara21392 on 19-02-2013 15:49
#4

I think Lipara sp.

Posted by Cesa on 19-02-2013 18:08
#5

Thank you Sara.
In 2012, Nartschuk reported from Turkey (Antalya) Lipara lugens Mg., a single known species in Turkey. In Israel, there are also L. rufitarsis, and L. similis. Have you an idea about the specific identity of our specimen?

Posted by piros on 19-02-2013 18:59
#6

Are you sure you meant Lipra lugens? Because if you mean L. lucens, I can exlude that sp. I don't know many flies, but this one I know quite well, and it looks different (It is large, dark brown with stripes of short, golden colored hairs).

Henrik

Edited by piros on 19-02-2013 19:00

Posted by Cesa on 19-02-2013 19:27
#7

another image of frontal view, not sharp but brown antenna visible, one of the character of L. lugens.

Posted by piros on 19-02-2013 19:47
#8

Upon second thought, it could be L. lucens after all. The silverish color of hair stripes could be due to the way it was photographed:S

Edited by piros on 19-02-2013 19:47

Posted by Cesa on 19-02-2013 19:51
#9

many thanks Henrik!

Posted by von Tschirnhaus on 03-05-2013 22:54
#10

This is Lipara lucens Meigen, 1830 (Chloropidae, Oscinellinae), The adjective lucens means "shining" and describes the silvery or golden hairs which densely cover the robust fly, different from two other blackish Lipara species, pullitarsis and rufitarsis.
The larvae of the valid 5 European Lipara spp. produce galls in reed (Phragmites australis). These cigar-like galls are the focus of a great many of scientific publications and dissertations.