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Hello,

I think it's an Graphomya or Anthomyia, I see the Graphomya minor is very similar but in Italy we don't have any reliable data about it.

01.10.2012 - North-East Italy (Padua)


IMG_7772 di Marcello Consolo, su Flickr

Thanks for the help,
Marcello

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Looks like Anthomyia sp. to me, but I am not an expert!

Best regards,

Henrik

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Maybe you'r right, here we have:

Anthomyia imbrida Rondani, 1866 (N)
Anthomyia liturata (Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830) (N, S, Si)
Anthomyia monilis (Meigen, 1826) (N)
Anthomyia pluvialis (Linnaeus, 1758) (N, S, Si, Sa)

So, it could be A. imbrida or A. pluvialis

Thanks!

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It is not Anthomyia pluvialis, (as postsutural lateral mark reaches wing base) but either imbrida, procellaris or quinquemaculata. Difficult to say as it is a female. One needs to see the pv- setae on hind tibia.

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Thanks Michael, so it's strange, because:

Anthomyia procellaris Rondani, 1866 (S, Si)
Anthomyia quinquemaculata Macquart, 1839 (S, Si)

These two species aren't registerd at the North italy (S = South, N = North), but the checklist aren't updated.

So, here the images about the tibia 1-2-3, I hope we can see somethings more...

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Here is the other shot

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Can't see tibial chaetotaxy clearly. Could be imbrida, procellaris or quinquemaculata. Being a female Anthomyia you need a specimen to ID these species, otherwise it's just a quess. A., procellaris surely occurs in N. Italy, it is a very common species.

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Thanks again Michael for your help, I agree, almost impossible to see the pv setae from this position.
One last question, can you please tell me a book, maybe the one wich you based too, for the EU Anthomyiidae identification?

Thanks!

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This is a big question! There is no complete book on European Anthomyiidae. Hennig's Palaearctic work of 1960-70 is a basis, but lots of papers are needed to bring it up to date. Verner Michelsen has published many revisions of species groups, and is still working on them.

If you are planning to take up the study of them, I can send you a list of papers. But you would need to collect, study under the microscope, dissect the male genitalia etc to get anywhere.

Send me a private message with your email address if you would like to expand on this?

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I'm sending a PM, thanks!