Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae?, N Spain --> Helina impuncta
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 27-09-2012 18:48
#1
Taken near beech forest on September the 23rd 2012. As usual, I am not sure of the family ;) Any help with family, genus or species will be most appreciated! Thanks!! ;)
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 28-09-2012 18:52
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 27-09-2012 18:49
#2
Another view.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 27-09-2012 18:50
#3
A detail of the hind leg, that cannot be seen in the other pictures.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 27-09-2012 18:52
#4
And a detail of the face and mid-leg, just in case :D
Posted by Jorge on 27-09-2012 19:40
#5
Hola Piluca! A juzgar por la vena anal parece Anthomyiidae. Por cierto, las fotos son tuyas? Son muy buenas! Un saludo!|t
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 27-09-2012 19:44
#6
Hola, Jorge! Me alegro de que te gusten las fotos ;) Poco a poco voy mejorando :D
Hi, Jorge! Glad you like the pictures. I am slowly improving :D
The anal vein always deceives my eye so I am always making mistakes :( :( That is why I always ask here :D
Hope you are well |t Best
Piluca
PD: And thanks!!
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 28-09-2012 18:53
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 27-09-2012 22:41
#7
But it is Muscidae, Helina
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 28-09-2012 13:14
#8
Thanks a lot, Nikita!! |t
I don't know what is worse, if an impossible Anthomyiidae or an impossible
Helina :D :D :D
Any hint of a possible ´cf. species'? ;)
Posted by Michael Ackland on 28-09-2012 14:46
#9
A good character to look for when deciding Anthomyiidae/Muscidae is the presence or absence of a small basal ventral setula on hind tarsomere 3; it is absent in photo 3 =Muscidae. Also I know of no European Anthomyiidae species with yellow legs and infuscated wing crossveins. Present only in some species of Anthomyia belong to the liturata group and they have darker legs. Not visible in the photos, but the lower calypter should be projecting for Muscidae
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 28-09-2012 17:55
#10
Helina impuncta.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 28-09-2012 18:55
#11
Thank you sooooo much, Stephane!! :) |t
I finally found my
Helina impuncta ;)
Michael Ackland wrote:
A good character to look for when deciding Anthomyiidae/Muscidae is the presence or absence of a small basal ventral setula on hind tarsomere 3; it is absent in photo 3 =Muscidae. Also I know of no European Anthomyiidae species with yellow legs and infuscated wing crossveins. Present only in some species of Anthomyia belong to the liturata group and they have darker legs. Not visible in the photos, but the lower calypter should be projecting for Muscidae
Michael, thank you so much for the hints |t Very useful :)