Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscid? Tachinid?

Posted by John Bratton on 30-08-2012 15:18
#1

I can't get this one to a family. Any suggestions will be appreciated. It is from brackish marsh behind a shingle ridge on the north Wales coast, October 2007.

Thanks
John Bratton

Posted by John Bratton on 30-08-2012 15:19
#2

Dorsal view

Posted by John Bratton on 30-08-2012 15:20
#3

Head - couldn't get it in focus.

Posted by John Bratton on 30-08-2012 15:20
#4

Wing veins

Posted by nielsyese on 30-08-2012 16:20
#5

Tachinid

Posted by oxycera on 30-08-2012 16:30
#6

Siphona, isn't it - or have I missed something?

Posted by ChrisR on 30-08-2012 17:56
#7

Indeed, Siphona :)

Posted by neprisikiski on 30-08-2012 17:58
#8

Siphona geniculata may be a candidate.

Posted by John Bratton on 01-09-2012 09:51
#9

I couldn't see that vertical row of bristles near the rear spiracle. Forgotten the name. Meral? Anyway, I'll have another look and see where I get to with the Siphona key.

Thanks,
John

Posted by ChrisR on 01-09-2012 10:21
#10

Hypopleurals or meral bristles, yes :) On a Siphona they will be pretty small but if you can locate the hind spiracle, just in front of the haltere then you should see the merals. You should also then note the well-rounded subscutellum that signifies a tachinid :)

Posted by John Bratton on 03-09-2012 14:58
#11

Using the Siphona key in Anderson 1996 Fauna Ent. Scand., it sails past geniculata and keys out to urbana. But I see the 1998 British checklist retains the name geniculata for Anderson's urbana. I've got better photographs of the head. Do these confirm that it is geniculata sensu British list, please?

For the record, it is from saltmarsh at Bodfan, SH435556, VC 49, 13 October 2007.

(Still can't see the meral bristles.)

John Bratton

Posted by John Bratton on 03-09-2012 14:59
#12

Palps

Posted by ChrisR on 03-09-2012 17:23
#13

You are correct - the ICZN preserved the traditional usage of geniculata and cristata after Andersen tried to revise them to urbana and geniculata. Siphona geniculata is by far the commonest Siphona in the UK so I would have little doubt that this is what you have. But with Siphona there is always room for some doubt, even with specimens sometimes :)