Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pegomya holmgreni, Anthomyiidae
Posted by JariF on 07-07-2012 14:52
#1
Hi,
yes, I know I should know this fly but but .... July 3. 2012 Loviisa, Finland and from my malaise trap
Jari
Edited by JariF on 06-08-2012 14:46
Posted by JariF on 08-07-2012 16:26
#2
No help from the galleries :(
Posted by JariF on 08-07-2012 18:53
#3
In fact the family would be enough ...
Posted by neprisikiski on 08-07-2012 19:29
#4
Anthomyiidae
Posted by JariF on 08-07-2012 19:34
#5
Thank's Erikas, I was affraid to hear that family name ;)
Posted by Stephen R on 08-07-2012 20:13
#6
What does the female of
Phaonia kowarzii look like?
Posted by Stephen R on 08-07-2012 20:57
#7
Oh, now I see a proclinate orbital. But no interfrontals?
The anal vein does seem to get to the margin. so Anthomyiidae must be right.
Edited by Stephen R on 08-07-2012 21:18
Posted by JariF on 08-07-2012 21:05
#8
The anal vein is long, small hairs under the scutellum but indeed .. no interfrontals ..
Posted by Stephen R on 08-07-2012 21:19
#9
See my edit above!
Posted by javanerkelens on 08-07-2012 22:21
#10
The notopleuron seems haired and the only species of Anthomyiidae with the notopleuron haired, I know, is Pegomya argyrocephala, but the description does not fit to this species, all legs should be dark and not have black shining part on thorax or abdomen......
Posted by Stephen R on 08-07-2012 23:25
#11
Pegomya was my thought too, but there's nothing that looks close to this in the British key. Maybe some Eurasian cousin?
Posted by JariF on 09-07-2012 06:34
#12
Thank' Joke and Stephen ! This seems to be an interesting fly :) I must show the specimen to Kahis or someone :)
Posted by Michael Ackland on 09-07-2012 17:19
#13
I think it is a female Pegomya, perhaps related to holmgreni. There are a few rarey caught Pegomya species in the far north. I caught 2 female Pegomya holmgreni in Abisko some years ago. My specimens have all black shiny abdomens. But Griffiths (in Nearctic flies) mentions for holmgreni yellow basal segments with black posterior tergites.
Posted by JariF on 09-07-2012 17:57
#14
Thank You so much Michael ! Is this something You would like to see ? We don't have
Pegomya holmgreni in our list (so far) ..
Posted by Kahis on 09-07-2012 18:23
#15
Hi everyone, and thanks for summoning me, Jari :)
Hmm. Sorry to say, I dont know what the heck this is. Anthomyiidae, sure, but thats it.
I can, however, say that I have seen a female like this in my net ... but only once I can remember. I think I have the specimen pinned somewhere. So whatever it is, it is not a very common species here.
Such a characteristic look, it would be the nice to get a name for it! If nothing else helps, and I can find my specimen, I will send a leg to the BOL project to be DNA sequenced. That is, IF I can find it. Unfortunately my collection is a bit of a mess after my prolonged illness.
Posted by JariF on 06-08-2012 14:49
#16
I got a mail from Verner Michelsen today with a confirmation to Michaels id :) A
Pegomya holmgreni female. A rare species and new to our list.
Jari
Posted by javanerkelens on 06-08-2012 18:41
#17
Very nice!!