Thread subject: Diptera.info :: small yellow crane flies mating
Posted by Sundew on 01-06-2012 16:50
#1
Hi,
Recently I watched a copula of small yellow crane flies on a wet way in a south Brandenburgian forest. Are they Limoniidae? They do not show very distinctive features, I am afraid. Is an ID possible?
Many thanks, Sundew
Posted by ValerioW on 01-06-2012 19:13
#2
Hello. Wing veins, for me, seem more like Tipulidae type (I'm excluding totally Trichoceridae because of A2 that here seems straight). If I'm wrong I apologize :)
Posted by Sundew on 01-06-2012 21:21
#3
No apologies necessary, IDs from photos are always a risk, especially if the animal is not very special. Thanks for the hint; however, I thought Tipulids were bigger...
Posted by Sundew on 02-06-2012 17:13
#4
Here is another yellow one from Berlin (thus a bit different locality, but same time of flying) - may be, it is the same species?
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 03-06-2012 08:18
#5
Limoniid. Dicranomyia, I think
Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 03-06-2012 08:19
Posted by pjotr oosterbroek on 04-06-2012 18:29
#6
Identification with Geiger, 1986b (PDF available from CCW) goes to Dicranomyia (Dicr.) autumnalis, but with the description of the species Geiger mentions that the colouration resembles several Dicranomyia's and that details of the hypopygium are needed to come to the species.
Kind regards,
Pjotr Oosterbroek
Posted by Sundew on 05-06-2012 12:31
#7
Many thanks, Nikita and Pjotr - you supplied more information than I expected! A safe genus name is great, and cf. autumnalis may be added with the reservation that the hypopygium might lead to another similar species.