Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Helina for ID, SE Spain

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-02-2012 22:23
#1

Taken by Francisco Rodriguez in Almeria, SE Spain, February 2012. I think this is a Eustalomyia sp. Any chance to get the species? Supposedly, only E. histrio and E. hilaris are found in Spain. E. hilaris doesn't match at all, but I am not sure about histrio either. Help, please!!

Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 15-02-2012 13:44

Posted by Stephen R on 15-02-2012 13:33
#2

Piluca, I think this is Helina.

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 15-02-2012 13:43
#3

Muscoidea flies are going to send me to a mad house :@ :S :@ :S :D

I thought I was seeing a clear long anal vein and it had to be Anthomyiidae :S :S :S The closest I could get was Eustalomyia, but not wonder now that nothing seemed to match ;)

Thanks a lot for the ID, Stephen |t

But I don't think I will ever get these right :o

Posted by Stephen R on 15-02-2012 16:51
#4

:D It's really hard sometimes to assess the anal vein in photographs, partly because there are many folds that look like veins. In this case the relevant vein is yellow in colour. On the right wing it does meet the edge, but only because the wing is torn. We can be sure that this one is Muscidae because there are 2+4 dorsocentrals.

Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 15-02-2012 22:00
#5

Thanks a lot for your explanation, Stephen! |t

And I see what you mean: the anal vein reaches the edge because the wing is torn. It completely fooled me :S

Hope it doesn't fool me again next time ;)