Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tipulidae Tipula holoptera?> paludosa
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:25
#1
Hello,
I spent hours trying to key these, in the end it seems to be
Tipula (Savtshenkia) holoptera. Is that correct, or have I gone terribly wrong? I can't find any photos to compare. 27th September 2011 on my door at night, near Lincoln UK.
I have photos of both male and female separately from other days which I'm sure are the same species. The female was on one occasion laying her eggs in a semi-shaded place on my meadow grass 'lawn' which is sandy, poor and acidic. I have close up photos of the male genital from the side and back, and the female from the side. I am posting the female side view as well, I can also post the male if required.
Janet
Edited by blowave on 23-01-2012 22:21
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:26
#2
2
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:26
#3
3
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:27
#4
4
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:28
#5
5
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:28
#6
Male wing
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:34
#7
A female from 18th September which looks the same ..
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:35
#8
crop
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 14:39
#9
Male thorax and head
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 15:02
#10
I thought I may as well post the male which I got on 9th September, I got good shots of the tail end and it has to be the same species..
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 15:03
#11
'''
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 15:04
#12
'''''
Posted by blowave on 22-01-2012 15:05
#13
''''''
Posted by clovis on 23-01-2012 19:44
#14
I think you should look in the Tipula subgenus.
Posted by blowave on 23-01-2012 20:27
#15
clovis wrote:
I think you should look in the Tipula subgenus.
Thanks for the tip clovis, I think I tried that but couldn't make it work. ;)
I've emailed Pjotr Oosterbroek to see if he can help.
Posted by blowave on 23-01-2012 22:19
#16
Pjotr is quite sure it's Tipula (Tipula) paludosa, you can see 14 antennal segments although the last one is tiny.