Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae (Sicily) -> Phyto cf. adolescens
Posted by Michael Becker on 08-12-2011 05:05
#1
Hello,
this ~8mm tachinid is from last april from the mountains in the interior Sicily. Does anyone know what it is?
Thanks,
Michael
Edited by Michael Becker on 11-12-2011 21:39
Posted by ChrisR on 08-12-2011 10:51
#2
Wow - something very nice, I think :) Do you have any other angles? The petiole is confusing me because it doesn't look right for the rest of the fly - so it must be something I am unaware of :)
Posted by sd on 08-12-2011 12:56
#3
Estheria maybe?
Steve
Posted by ChrisR on 08-12-2011 14:26
#4
Eyes look too big to me, for any
Estheria (etc) ... and the shape suggests something like
Meigenia or
Macquartia, but I don't think it is either of those :)
Posted by Michael Becker on 08-12-2011 16:47
#5
Hello,
I have two other pictures from slightly different perspectives. Here more from the side....
Posted by Michael Becker on 08-12-2011 16:49
#6
... an here a very very little bit more from above. But I am afraid I don't have a better view on the petiole.
Michael
Posted by ChrisR on 08-12-2011 18:37
#7
Nice photos - but one for Theo, I think :)
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 08-12-2011 19:47
#8
I think we are dealing with a Rhinophoridae : the calypters are not adjacent to the lateral margin of scutellum. A
Phyto maybe.
Posted by Zeegers on 09-12-2011 17:23
#9
Yes, it is a Phyto.
Could have fooled me !
Theo
Posted by Michael Becker on 09-12-2011 18:24
#10
Thank you for the answers. According to the Fauna europaea there is only one Phyto species known from Sicily: Phyto adolescens. Could it be this species, or are there characteristics which suggest that it is something different?
Michael
Posted by Zeegers on 10-12-2011 11:54
#11
I will look in to it.
It is surely NOT Ph. melanocephala.
Theol
Posted by ChrisR on 10-12-2011 12:24
#12
Strange fly ... the standing-out calypters should have been a good pointer to rhinophoridae but the general shape is so uncharacteristic :S
Posted by Zeegers on 10-12-2011 15:34
#13
I checked:
It is consistent with Phyto adolescens
Theo
Posted by Zeegers on 10-12-2011 21:05
#14
CORRECTION
I meant to say it is consistent with Ph. discrepans, as far as I can tel. By no means a positive ID, though
(do not work when you are sick !)
Theo
Posted by Michael Becker on 11-12-2011 06:57
#15
Thank you for your effort Theo. I will labe the photos Phyto cf. discrepans. Do you think it is certain enough for the gallery in which this species still is absent?
Posted by Zeegers on 11-12-2011 16:51
#16
So, I finally could reach out to a book, to look for an easy distinction between discrepans and adolescens.
Discrepans does not have marginal bristles on syntergite 1&2, adolescens does. And yours clearly does.
So, it is not discrepans.
I don't have adolescens in my collection, that is why I cannot compare it.
So please change into Ph. cf. adolescens.
Theo
Posted by Michael Becker on 11-12-2011 21:42
#17
Thank you very much again. To me Phyto adolescens now seems rather certain. In my photo collection I will skip the cf..
Michael