Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinid for ID, C Spain --> Pales sp.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 11-11-2011 07:36
#1
Taken in the mountains of Madrid on the 18th August 2011. In mixed woodland near flowery meadows.
I am not 100% sure it is Tachinid. Some look too close to Sarcophagidae to me :( Those extremely hairy eyes have me puzzled. Help me, please!
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 26-11-2011 23:16
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 11-11-2011 07:36
#2
A dorsal view.
Posted by ChrisR on 11-11-2011 11:07
#3
It's definitely a tachinid - I believe hairy eyes are very rare (absent?) in sarcophagids and the thorax is not striped in the same way as in the Sarcophagini :)
That said, I am not 100% sure what it is ... the parafacial area is very wide so possible something in the Goniini but I'd need a specimen to key through to be able to take it to genus :)
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 11-11-2011 14:28
#4
Thanks a bunch for your reply, Chris! :) Knowing it is indeed a Tachinid makes me very happy ;) I am hopeless with Sarcophagidae :(
At least I can try to see the chances with Spanish Goniini, instead of trying to track it down in the wrong family :S :@ :D
Best
Piluca
Posted by Zeegers on 12-11-2011 19:19
#5
It's a female Pales
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 12-11-2011 19:26
#6
WOW!! Thanks again, Theo!! :)
I have checked and there are only 3 species in Spain:
- pavida
- processioneae
- pumicata
No idea if there is a chance to know the species. But I am pretty happy knowing the genus ;)
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 12-11-2011 19:28
Posted by Zeegers on 13-11-2011 09:40
#7
It is not pumicata and pavida and processioneae are extremely similar in the female sex.
That is why ... .Pales without species
Theo
Posted by ChrisR on 13-11-2011 17:13
#8
Very nice fly - I have never seen such a grey
Pales ... must be interesting ... another one that got away! ;)
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 13-11-2011 19:35
#9
Thanks, Theo!!
Didn't expect to get the species, it was just in case... :)
But it is great to know why it is not possible to get it. Very happy with my Pales sp. though! :D
Chris, I am afraid this isn't the only Pales that got away. Have a look at my new thread ;) I think that one might be a Pales too.
http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=43184