Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Black Tachinid => Clytiomya
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 22-09-2011 18:47
#1
Hello,
Am I right with Clytiomya? Is species ID possible?
Thanks, Marion
(Greece, Island Corfu, Sept. 2011)
Edited by Marion Friedrich on 23-09-2011 19:01
Posted by ChrisR on 22-09-2011 18:50
#2
Cistogaster globosa (female) :)
Well, probably
globosa but in Greece there might be other
Cistogaster - I don't know :)
Edited by ChrisR on 22-09-2011 18:52
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 22-09-2011 19:38
#3
Thank you, Chris.
Cistogaster globosa was my first guess, because I started to search in the gallery from the beginning, but the wing veining of the specimen in the gallery looks different. So, I continued to search and found the Clytiomya wings better matching.
?????
Marion
Posted by Sundew on 22-09-2011 19:42
#4
Right -
Cistogaster globosa should have petiolate vein-m!
Posted by ChrisR on 22-09-2011 19:51
#5
Hmm, you certainly point out a problem with the wing veins so maybe Theo should comment ... it's a bit out of my normal range :) But I doubt that it is
Clytiomya because they are heavily dusted. Do you have any more angles, in case we are being confused by lighting or the angle? :)
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 22-09-2011 20:50
#6
Unfortunately, I do not have other angles. The fly was a very fast one and all pictures are photographed from above.
Marion
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 23-09-2011 06:53
#7
At the same place and flowers I took photos from the flies of this unanswered threat:
http://www.dipter...d_id=41962
For Greece I found
Eliozeta helluo (Fabricius 1805)
Eliozeta pellucens (Fallen 1820)
but they are much more colored,
and the following 4 species
Clytiomya continua (Panzer 1798)
Clytiomya dupuisi Kugler 1971
Clytiomya mesnili Kugler 1968
Clytiomya sola (Rondani 1861)
Probably the fly belongs to another genus, but which one?
Marion
Edited by ChrisR on 23-09-2011 09:32
Posted by ChrisR on 23-09-2011 09:36
#8
The other photo is definitely an
Eliozeta/
Clytiomya but dusted and coloured typically for those genera. I have never seen either genus look like this shiny, black specimen though :S
Posted by Liekele Sijstermans on 23-09-2011 11:17
#9
I have seen this species - or at least similar specimens - before from Italy.
It is a Clytiomya close to C. sola and very likely not yet described.
Liekele
Posted by ChrisR on 23-09-2011 12:21
#10
... and no specimen taken?! Doh!! ;)
Posted by Marion Friedrich on 23-09-2011 18:59
#11
Thank you all for the contributions to this thread. :)
Marion
Edited by Marion Friedrich on 23-09-2011 19:18
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 23-09-2011 19:53
#12
Collect more for us, Liekele. :)