Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae from dunes

Posted by picotverd on 31-08-2011 18:12
#1

A couple of days ago at Tarragona's province beach.... just 2 photos...

Posted by picotverd on 31-08-2011 18:13
#2

last one...

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 31-08-2011 18:16
#3

VERY interesting Gymnosoma!

Posted by Zeegers on 31-08-2011 18:48
#4

Looks like somehting as costatum or inornatum.


Theo

Posted by picotverd on 31-08-2011 21:32
#5

Thanks! Then may be G. inornatum because costatum it is not listed in Spain...

Posted by Zeegers on 02-09-2011 08:06
#6

That is because everybody walks with in a big circle around the subject Gymnosoma in the Mediterrean...

me included.

But you are right, it looks more like inornatum than costatum. I'm very cautious here, since I'm actually not convinced (at this moment) that inornatum is a bona fida species

Theo

Posted by ChrisR on 02-09-2011 08:36
#7

Would be nice if some DNA work could contribute to the information we have and help taxonomists simplify the number of species ... but, knowing DNA, it would probably just add more morphologically-unidentifiable species than we have already ;)

They tried a similar exercise with Belvosia in the neotropics and it has possibly doubled the number of taxa when even the existing species didn't have enough morphology to split them.

Posted by milosz on 02-09-2011 10:09
#8

ChrisR wrote:
Would be nice if some DNA work could contribute to the information we have


Project with Gymnosoma and DNA analysis is realised... by me (with morphology revision also).

But I think I won't be able to make all european species of Gymnosoma, because some specimens are very hard to find (especially some doubtful species, like G. brachypeltae oraz G. inornatum).

Edited by milosz on 02-09-2011 10:38