Thread subject: Diptera.info :: [Chloropidae] Meromyza sp

Posted by jonas on 16-06-2011 18:49
#1

Hi,

Meromyza is a difficult genus, but this one from yellow flowers, in the dunes might be identified?
Size is 7mm (collected)

Captured today

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Meromyza by Jonas Mortelmans, on Flickr

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Meromyza2 by Jonas Mortelmans, on Flickr

Really nice fly :-)

Bye Jonas

Posted by Sara21392 on 16-06-2011 19:48
#2

Looks like M. pratorum! :)

Posted by conopid on 16-06-2011 19:50
#3

yes - see here: http://www.dipter...to_id=2834

Posted by jonas on 16-06-2011 20:19
#4

Thank you!
It larvae seem to live in Ammophila, since the dunes are full of this, it is very plausible.

the one on the link seems to be another species; M.ornata.

Bye, Jonas

Posted by Sara21392 on 16-06-2011 20:38
#5

Dear Jonas
Please see: http://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=2835
;)

Posted by nielsyese on 16-06-2011 20:40
#6

It can't be M. pratorum, I think. Why you thought about this species, Sara?
Jonas, is it really 7 mm?

Edited by nielsyese on 16-06-2011 20:42

Posted by Sara21392 on 16-06-2011 20:45
#7

well, ok, now I'll check it again :)

Posted by Sara21392 on 16-06-2011 21:00
#8

Well it is part of key (M. pratorum):
protruding part of frons (viewed in profile) greater than length of 3rd segment of ant. or equal to it; width of parafacial not less than width of 3rd segment of ant. Occiput without dark pattern. Stripes of msn. narrow, black; .....
But in my key I don't have ornata species..!!!!! :|

Edit: Please see
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/details/species/id/8721520
In this site I couldn't find any species with name of ornata!!!!! I am really curious about another ideas?? Thanks

Edited by Sara21392 on 16-06-2011 21:09

Posted by jonas on 16-06-2011 21:44
#9

Hi,
it measures exactly 7 mm...
I caught some other ones, which were as big as this one.

Bye,
Jonas

Posted by nielsyese on 17-06-2011 16:48
#10

Hi Sara, you have sororcula in your key. That's the older name of ornata.
But there seems to be a dark pattern on the occiput on the 2nd picture? Moreover, 7 mm is quite big for all species present in my key (the same key as Sara uses). But of course, a species can be bigger than the sizes in the key.
I think the best option for Jonas to get a name is sending it to an expert. For me, these are all speculations, as I'm far from experienced with this group:)
Best wishes, Niels-Jan

Posted by empeejay on 17-06-2011 19:22
#11

Sara

In case you haven't already seen it, there is a key to Palaearctic Meromyza here.

;)

.....
But in my key I don't have ornata species..!!!!! :|

Posted by Sara21392 on 17-06-2011 19:50
#12

Niels-Jan, thank you very much for your advise... yes, I agree with you, in second picture I can see dark pattern on occiput... :) many thanks.. :D
empeejay, I'm so thanks to you for your help... :D

Posted by jonas on 18-06-2011 12:27
#13

Thank you all.
I will leave it at Meromyza sp untill I catch a male. It will be easier then females ;)

Bye, Jonas

Posted by jonas on 18-06-2011 12:28
#14

Thank you all.
I will leave it at Meromyza sp untill I catch a male. It will be easier then females ;)

Bye, Jonas