Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calyptrate with short petiole > Phyto discrepans
Posted by Stephen R on 03-06-2011 23:44
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6+mm, Clitheroe UK, 2 June 2011
My first guess is Rhinophoridae, but I wonder about the round curve in the M vein. Otherwise
Phyto doesn't look far off, though I don't know about the orange frons. Just newness? I have the specimen.
Edited by Stephen R on 08-06-2011 11:22
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 04-06-2011 10:10
#2
We have to play without the picture Stephen ? :)
Posted by Stephen R on 04-06-2011 10:29
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Oops, sorry! Didn't notice the file was too big - too much background detail. Let's try this:
Edited by Stephen R on 04-06-2011 10:53
Posted by Stephen R on 04-06-2011 14:23
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Here's the body:
Posted by Stephen R on 04-06-2011 14:24
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Posted by Stephen R on 04-06-2011 14:25
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Posted by Stephen R on 04-06-2011 14:44
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Posted by Zeegers on 04-06-2011 16:57
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The calyptra is too big for Rhinophoridae.
There is some Sarcophagidae with a petiole. Need to look this up (or Liekele beats me to it !)
Excellent pictures, by the way
Theo
Posted by Stephen R on 04-06-2011 18:27
#9
Thanks!
Posted by Liekele Sijstermans on 08-06-2011 09:59
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Maybe calyptra look big because of the angle from which the picture is taken. I would not exclude Rhinophoridae from these pictures.
I have to exclude Sarcophagidae. Second picture shows tergite VI which is not present in Sarcophaginae, only in Miltogramminae. But in Miltogramminae there aren't any look alikes.
However this specimen reminded me immediatly of Phyto discrepans. Therefore I have compared the pictures with my specimens and I do not see any reason why this could not be Phyto discrepans. Several "subspecies" have been described, showing some variability within the species.
This specimen seems to lack stripes on thorax, but that could be an artifact in pictures. The tomentosum on the abdomen is more extensive as usual but I have similar specimens from Portugal.
Liekele
Posted by Stephen R on 08-06-2011 11:20
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Many thanks, Lieleke! There are rather faint dusting stripes on the thorax - the third photo (labelled 2 ;)) represents them fairly accurately, at least on the mesonotum.
Posted by oxycera on 09-06-2011 20:11
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useful post