Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae
Posted by neprisikiski on 28-04-2011 20:46
#1
Hello, I want to ask about distinguishing characters between two very similar species of
Peribaea - apicalis and longirostris. I have one season yield of nearly 500 specimens that could be identified as
longirostris, but following Andersen it mostly recorded from Italy and should be very rare, so variability of
apicalis? Thanks for your help.
Edited by neprisikiski on 28-04-2011 20:54
Posted by neprisikiski on 28-04-2011 20:47
#2
Abdominal tergites with conspicuous yellow bands along hind margins.
Posted by ChrisR on 28-04-2011 20:57
#3
I have one season yield of nearly 500 specimens
:o ... 500 specimens in a year?! I haven't even seen one here! :D
Posted by neprisikiski on 28-04-2011 21:08
#4
Chris, we know your situation there in the west... If it is really
Peribaea longirostris, than I haven't seen
P. apicalis, what is rather strange!
Posted by ChrisR on 28-04-2011 22:40
#5
Just looked at Andersen (1996) ... is
P.apicalis a synonym of anything there or is it an addition since his keys? :)
Posted by neprisikiski on 28-04-2011 22:46
#6
A synonym of
Peribaea minuta..
Posted by ChrisR on 28-04-2011 23:07
#7
Hmm, I see what you mean ... everything points to
P.longirostris from the photos. I wonder though, as
P.longirostris was a sp.nov. in 1996 ... how many of the
P.apicalis records are prior to that and should be revised in light of the split? It could be that
P.longirostris is far commoner and wider distributed than we think.
Posted by Zeegers on 29-04-2011 08:06
#8
need to really check this, but first impression is very OK.
It is my impression that longirostris is / might be the most northern of the three apicalis / tibialis / longirostris.
InNL, it is found (but very rarely) in Calluna heath
We could make a nice trade of Peribaea material
Theo
Posted by ChrisR on 29-04-2011 09:19
#9
Just checked my
Peribaea "holdings" (sounds very grand) but I have just: 1x real
P.apicalis from Russia (I double-checked it now - caught by a chap we all know - Nikita Vikhrev :D); 1x
P.discicornis from Portugal; 1x
P.setinervis from England; and a lot of
P.tibialis from Portugal and Spain ... hmm, I wonder who might have caught those Portuguese specimens? ;) I don't know whether this adds much to the distributional information though :)
I just wonder how many pre-1996 records for
apicalis have been double-checked to eliminate
longirostris?
Edited by ChrisR on 29-04-2011 09:23