Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Musca

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-09-2006 19:30
#1

Turkey, Side, 28 sept.
Using Zimin's key species level ID is impossible. But it seems to me that here there are experts which know the way. If so, please, explain me how.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 30-09-2006 21:14
#2

Hi Nikita - Nice shot!
It's a Musca, but not a species I know . It could be sorbens, but your nice shot doesn't show any of the key characters! :p
Amazingly there are no images of sorbens available on the net (according to Google) - despite it being one of the most important disease vectors in the world! Another good reason to support Diptera.info! B)

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-09-2006 21:30
#3

Thank you Tony.
Could it be Musca larvipara?
Nikita

Posted by Tony Irwin on 30-09-2006 22:11
#4

I did consider that but Zimin suggests that autumnalis and larvipara are very similar (apart from the suprasquamal and genal hairs). Your specimen and autumnalis have very different thoracic markings, which I would have though he would have mentioned - but I might be wrong! :o :D

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 01-10-2006 11:06
#5

Tony, I collected several more flies (to broke out wing and find suprasquamal hairs). My result is: sternite 1 with hairs (so, not M. sorbens), only hind suprasquamal hairs (I'm not sure), front very narrow - M. domestica vicina. May be?
Nikita

Posted by Tony Irwin on 01-10-2006 15:14
#6

Nikita - Check the propleural depression (just in front of the anterior spiracle) for short black hairs - if it is bare, it is not domestica.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 28-09-2007 20:50
#7

Again in Side.
Last year I regarded 2-nd sternite as 1-st. Really 1-st is bare.
It seems it is really M.sorbens
Nikita

Posted by Tony Irwin on 02-10-2007 19:53
#8

Excellent! This is a really important photo - as I said before - no other photos of sorbens available on the net!

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 02-10-2007 20:03
#9

Collect several flies for you, Tony?

Posted by Tony Irwin on 02-10-2007 20:15
#10

Thanks, Nikita!! :D:D:D

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 12-10-2007 20:50
#11

An addition about life of M.sorbens:
M.sorbens as a prey of Oxybelus quatuordecimnotatus.