Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Odiniidae (Cambodia)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-12-2010 02:30
#1
Cambodia, Kep, 06.12, on a treewound sap.
Can anybody confirm
Traginops orientalis
Posted by Jan Willem on 07-12-2010 11:29
#2
Very nice species Nikita. Of course I cannot help you with this fly, but still nice to see it ;)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-12-2010 13:18
#4
I requested Nina Krivosheina, she wrote chapter Odiniidae in Fauna of Russain Far East including this species, I hope she will confirm it, but I'm 98% sure as
orientalis is the only Asian species of
Traginops (= goat eye)
Posted by Paul Beuk on 07-12-2010 13:50
#5
From the Japanese page I understood that subspecies have been described.
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-12-2010 14:08
#6
Paul, at my opinion - subspecies are the toys for Lepidopterologists, for example, they have nothing else to do. But Diptera is endless field so far, to think about such a rubbish :D
Posted by Paul Beuk on 07-12-2010 14:28
#7
I know, but in the past subspecies have been described only to be recognised as valid species later.
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-12-2010 16:03
#8
I doubt that Traginops orientalis spp. naganensis Kato, 1952 will grow up to valid species: same fly in Russian Far East and on Java Isl., but different in Japan, that seems doubtful, doesn't it?
Posted by Paul Beuk on 07-12-2010 16:18
#9
True, but stranger things have happened...
Posted by Cranefly on 07-12-2010 17:18
#10
1. Anterior tarsi black-brown. Posterior metatarsus black-brown except base and apex. Frons yellow, orbita silvery. Occiput silvery with brown median spot. Scutum gray with brown spots. Femora black, dusted grey with yellow apex. Halter yellow
..T.orientalis orientalis
- Tarsi brown-yellow
. T.orientalis naganensis
Wing pattern is very similar, but femora not black and on the figure T. orientalis has 1 facial bristle only and on the photo 2.