Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaoniinae.. I think=Phaonia rufiventris

Posted by philporter on 12-10-2010 16:23
#1

I would be grateful for a confirmation of genus or better, please. I want to use my Fonseca key but struggle every time.

Edited by philporter on 28-10-2010 10:17

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 12-10-2010 17:44
#2

The picture is a bit small and I can't see well all the chaetotaxy, but it should be a male Phaonia, in subventa group (I think P. subventa itself, named variegata in d'A.Fonseca). I let you check.
Thricops simplex could be a second candidate, but as far as I can see, there are neither ad on mid tibia, nor posterior on fore one. This latter has only 3 postsutural dc and setulae on posterior inner margin of hind coxa.

Posted by philporter on 13-10-2010 09:05
#3

Thank you very much Stephane, that is just the sort of background I wanted and it reduces the problem down to a manageable level for a beginner

Posted by philporter on 13-10-2010 13:02
#4

Stephane, following on from your most helpful information, using Fonseca, I think it must be Phaonia (populi) rufiventris, because it has only 1 pair of pre-sutural acrostichal bristles, and scutellum orange with only a very small dark base, although the dark median presutural stripes each seem much less than 40% of the width of the pale central stripe, unless they are both to be taken into account which seems unlikely. The single pair of p-s. acro.'s also excludes Thricops simplex. Is there anything further to say?

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 13-10-2010 17:00
#5

Nothing else, you did all right ! :)

Posted by philporter on 13-10-2010 20:43
#6

That's excellent Stephane. Thank you.