Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tabanidae (Tabanus?)
Posted by Pietro on 21-09-2010 17:05
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Sassari (Baratz), Sardinia 1/08/2010. dimensions: around 9 mm.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Posted by Pietro on 21-09-2010 17:06
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Posted by Pietro on 21-09-2010 17:06
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Posted by Zeegers on 21-09-2010 18:24
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Looks interesting. I can't see an eyeband and the antenna is very black.
If this is it, I can't help you
Theo
Posted by sd on 21-09-2010 21:27
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spindle shaped median callus suggests
bromius group or
bovinus group
I can just about make out the pattern on the abdomen; there are sublateral patches and pale median ones which would suggest
autumnalis.
autumnalis is one of the most widespread tabanids in Europe.
Unless of course, Theo has spotted something which proves otherwise :)
Posted by Zeegers on 22-09-2010 18:32
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It is supposed to 9 mm. I have little doubt it is bigger, more like 12 mm., but for autumnalis we are talking about 17 mm.
I agree that the white palpus, black antenna, callus shape, yellow notopleural lobes and possibly the abdominal pattern (difficult to see) and of course the lack of eye band suggest autumnalis.
But then it really really has to be bigger than 9 mm.
Theo
Posted by Pietro on 22-09-2010 19:55
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thanks for your interest,
it is possible that I have sub-esteemed the size,
but in the background of the photo it is the weft of my jeans
(it wanted to sting me through them).
Posted by sd on 22-09-2010 21:41
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well, it looks about at least 30 threads long - just need to measure your jeans:D
The general colouration does seem a lot browner than the
autumnalis I have from Sardinia, but then photos can exaggerate colour differences.
Posted by Zeegers on 23-09-2010 20:39
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and the brown in autumnalis is very very variable in southern Europe (abb. brunnescens)
Theo
Posted by Pietro on 23-09-2010 21:23
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30 threads long = 10,05 mm.
Posted by Zeegers on 24-09-2010 13:14
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IN that case, you were right after all and autumnalis is out of the question. It looks very interesting (?darimonti), but I'm really not going to speculate.
Theo
Posted by sd on 24-09-2010 18:08
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My apologies Pietro for doubting your estimate - you have posted many excellent photos with lots of accurate info:)
Theo, could you say
Tabanus regularis was a possibility , without speculating of course:)
regards,
Steve
Posted by Zeegers on 24-09-2010 20:24
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I thought about regularis, but I thought the frontal stripe was too broad. I will check to be more sure.
Theo