Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Catharosia pygmaea suggested - Which little wingwaving fly.
Posted by Erik Nielsen on 30-08-2010 16:41
#1
It danced around on my patio made of Lark and ended up dancing on Glechoma hederacea. Bigger than the Sepsis (who behaves like that) I usually see.
Yesterday Jutland near Silkeborg, Denmark
Edited by Erik Nielsen on 31-08-2010 09:14
Posted by Jan Willem on 30-08-2010 19:01
#2
Somehow reminds me of a tachinid!?
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 30-08-2010 19:12
#3
Female of
Melanophora roralis (Rhinophoridae). ;)
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 30-08-2010 20:31
#4
I begin to have doubts about my previous ID. Abdomen has a strange shape, vein R4+5 end at wing apex, not above as in
M. roralis. So it could be a Tachinid just like Jan suggested, like a Catharosia ? Another picture could help...
Posted by Erik Nielsen on 30-08-2010 21:02
#5
Thank you Jan and Stephane.
I have a few more not too good pictures. Which angle is interesting?
Best Regards Erik
Posted by Erik Nielsen on 30-08-2010 21:10
#6
Anyway, here is one.
Posted by Jan Willem on 30-08-2010 21:43
#7
The tachinid specialists will be able to tell more. So it might be good to change the title to attract their attention. Could be
Catharosia pygmaea. That's the
Catharosia species known from Denmark :)
Edited by Jan Willem on 30-08-2010 21:50
Posted by Zeegers on 31-08-2010 18:43
#8
Fascinating, and I am not sure. I can see both Melanophora and Catharosia suggestions.
Theo
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 31-08-2010 18:53
#9
also both calypters seems to be white..
Posted by ChrisR on 31-08-2010 18:55
#10
I bet if it was on a pin then we'd have no problems identifying it :D
Posted by Zeegers on 31-08-2010 20:33
#11
The white calyptra is what makes me doubt Catharosia.
In that case, it would be C. albisquama, which is very very VERY small ( 1,8 mm., our smallest Tachinidae).
And that does not agree....
If I'd only seen the second pic and Staphane had called it Melanophora, I would have been perfectly satisfied.
Maybe I am now .....as well ?
Theo
Posted by Jan Willem on 31-08-2010 22:13
#12
I'm not convinced both calypters are white. Maybe Erik can upload a detail in higher resolution!?
Posted by Erik Nielsen on 31-08-2010 23:08
#13
Sorry its not pinned :| It was much much bigger than 1,8 mm. Here is one more picture in higher resolution. Thanks too all of you so far!
Best regards Erik
Posted by Erik Nielsen on 31-08-2010 23:16
#14
The final picture I can provide :)
Erik
Posted by Jaakko on 01-09-2010 08:29
#15
Just by feeling I would vote for
C. pygmea (the calypters are dark enough in the second last pic).
Posted by Zeegers on 01-09-2010 20:32
#16
Given the new information, I tend to agree with Jaakko.
The femora are reddish as is often seen in pygmaea (though not always).
Apparently the 'white' calyptra was again a trick of the flash, not for the first time, and for the last time neither, I'm afraid.
Theo
Posted by Erik Nielsen on 03-09-2010 20:04
#17
Thank you to all again!
I will book it as Catharosia pygmaea.
Best Regards Erik