Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sarcophaga carnaria
Posted by mwa66 on 14-08-2010 16:07
#1
This seems to be easy. Characteristic chessboard on abdomen.
Sarcophaga carnaria,Sarciphagidae. Correct ?
Posted by JariF on 14-08-2010 16:19
#2
I think this is a female and I'm not sure if there is a key for these. Males are separated by genitals but females not. I think
Sarcophaga sp. is correct. (If this is Sarcophaga)
Jari
Posted by mwa66 on 14-08-2010 16:34
#3
JariF wrote:
I think this is a female and I'm not sure if there is a key for these. Males are separated by genitals but females not. I think Sarcophaga sp. is correct. (If this is Sarcophaga)
Jari
Next view . Is this helpful. Sp. is from Poland, central north.
Posted by ChrisR on 14-08-2010 18:16
#4
You're probably correct with
Sarcophaga but it's impossible to say more - there are many species that look identical this this and can only be identified by examining male genitalia under a microscope :)
The first is a female so, even if we had the specimen, it would be impossible to identify ;) The second photo is a male but, again, it needs a specimen.
Posted by mwa66 on 14-08-2010 18:40
#5
ChrisR wrote:
You're probably correct with Sarcophaga but it's impossible to say more - there are many species that look identical this this and can only be identified by examining male genitalia under a microscope :)
The first is a female so, even if we had the specimen, it would be impossible to identify ;) The second photo is a male but, again, it needs a specimen.
Chris thanks a lot for explanation. Beeing more fun of macrophoto actually focused on diptera for me it is more than enough. It means that
Sarcophagas are not so easy to identify even just to say Yes it is
Sarcophaga sp ?
Posted by ChrisR on 14-08-2010 18:56
#6
Well, if they are big (>12mm) then they are usually in the
Sarcophaga carnaria group of species ... but
Wohlfahrtia are also big. There are lots of smaller species too, that used to be in different genera, that have now been placed into
Sarcophaga but these are harder to identify because there are so many of them. They all have the long, checker-boarded abdomen and striped thorax ... but they have different, subtle bristle arrangements and have different male genitalia of course :)
Posted by mwa66 on 14-08-2010 19:03
#7
ChrisR wrote:
Well, if they are big (>12mm) then they are usually in the Sarcophaga carnaria group of species ... but Wohlfahrtia are also big. There are lots of smaller species too, that used to be in different genera, that have now been placed into Sarcophaga but these are harder to identify because there are so many of them. They all have the long, checker-boarded abdomen and striped thorax ... but they have different, subtle bristle arrangements and have different male genitalia of course :)
Clear. Thanks. Those two were not as big as you wrote. Nevertheless thanks a lot.