Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Milichiidae, Phyllomyza cf securicornis group
Posted by JariF on 24-06-2010 13:23
#1
Hi,
what might be the family of this small black fly with round antenna and very bristly palpi ? June 22. 2010 Loviisa, Finland
Jari
Edited by JariF on 08-07-2010 19:28
Posted by Paul Beuk on 24-06-2010 13:27
#2
Compare with Milichiidae,
Desmometopa.
Posted by JariF on 24-06-2010 13:34
#3
Yes, that's what it is. We have two species
m-nigrum and
sordida. Must find out witch one this is. Thank You again Paul :)
Jari
Posted by ibrake on 08-07-2010 09:57
#4
Looks like a
Phyllomyza female, probably of the
P. securicornis group (see
http://milichiida...curicornis). Females are difficult to identify.
Irina
Posted by JariF on 08-07-2010 19:27
#5
Thank You Irina. In fact I tried to use the only key I have and there were no
Desmometopa like this one.
Jari
Posted by ibrake on 09-07-2010 08:58
#6
Desmometopa has two lateroclinate orbital setae and Phyllomyza three. There is a key at
http://milichiida...ilichiidae, but I need to improve it. Maybe one day I will find the time to do a Lucid key.
Irina
Posted by Paul Beuk on 09-07-2010 09:19
#7
Without a good size indication and proper view of the frons it was enough for me to see that these were Milichiidae but to be not certain about genus. Hence I indicated to compare them with
Desmometopa. I don't have all the characters in my head, but perhaps I will remember the orbital setae character now. ;)
Edited by Paul Beuk on 09-07-2010 09:20
Posted by ibrake on 09-07-2010 09:51
#8
Hi Paul, it is actually not so much the head setae I was looking at. The habitus is also different, with
Phyllomyza being somewhat stouter. Also, there are no
Desmometopa species with such long presutural dorsocentral seta. At least not in Europe.
Irina