Thread subject: Diptera.info :: small grey fly -> Leucopis (Chamaemyiidae)

Posted by Michael Becker on 17-05-2010 14:54
#1

Hello,

this 5mm fly is from one week ago from a small forest near Cologne. I don't have a better picture. But can perhaps the family (or more?) be identified? Muscidae?

Thanks,
Michael

Edited by Michael Becker on 21-05-2010 13:53

Posted by paqui on 18-05-2010 23:20
#2

Hi, Iīve no idea, it remembers Chamaemyiidae to me, but Iīm not sure at all, I mistake many families, letīs wait for Someone who can really tell
Itīs so nice :)

Posted by Michael Becker on 20-05-2010 05:08
#3

Hello Paqui,

Thank you for your answer. it seems noone is sure. The photo is simply too bad. I will label it "unknown".

Michael

Posted by Paul Beuk on 20-05-2010 06:25
#4

Nudge Steve Gaimari. He might confirm Chamaemyiidae. It seems to be 'bare' enough for a Leucops-like fly. Perhaps Lipoleucopis?

Posted by Michael Becker on 20-05-2010 20:34
#5

Thank you, I will try.

Michael

Posted by Steve Gaimari on 21-05-2010 01:42
#6

Well, when it comes down to it, I just can't be sure. The first thing I thought when I saw it was Chamaemyiidae, but then looking and looking, it is just too out of focus. Two things throw me off. First, I really can't see a prescutellum (which would be irrelevant for Lipoleucopis or Anchioleucopis, since they lack it), but it really looks like it has 2 fronto-orbital setae (something they wouldn't have), but I can't even really tell that. If they were tiny I might be thinking about some Neoleucopis. So with the fronto-orbitals, I was thinking of chamaemyiines, but there aren't strong dorsocentral setae. Anyway, I kinda threw my hands up. Sorry!

Posted by Michael Becker on 21-05-2010 05:04
#7

Hello,

nevertheless thank you for your effort and for the answer. I don't know why my camera always took the focus to the wings...

Michael

Posted by Steve Gaimari on 21-05-2010 08:19
#8

Now that looks more like Leucopis. Maybe some of the things I thought I saw (or didn't see) were artifacts of the lack of focus.

Posted by Michael Becker on 21-05-2010 13:52
#9

Thank you again. This morning when moving the pictures to the "unknown" directory I just saw that I had another one.

Michael