Thread subject: Diptera.info :: [ID] Two flies from UK, please

Posted by Jason G on 02-04-2010 01:37
#1

Good morning all,

This is my first post, so I'm bound to do something silly - so I'll apologise in advance of that! :D

Both were photographed in the spring of 2009, in London UK. Any help on these appreciated :)

Take care,

Jason B)

This is Fly 1, in Lateral view:

Edited by Jason G on 02-04-2010 01:43

Posted by Jason G on 02-04-2010 01:41
#2

Fly 1 dorsal:

Edited by Jason G on 02-04-2010 01:44

Posted by Jason G on 02-04-2010 01:41
#3

...and the second fly:

Edited by Jason G on 02-04-2010 01:42

Posted by Jason G on 02-04-2010 01:42
#4

...and a second shot of my second fly:

Posted by tim worfolk on 02-04-2010 05:09
#5

Hi Jason, welcome to Diptera.info. Don't worry about doing anything silly, some of us (myself e.g.) make a habit of it.

Can't help much with your flies, I'm afraid, other than that they both look like Sarcophagidae to me. In which case identification may not go further than Genus, but you never know, I'm often wrong.

BTW if you limit it to one fly/sp. per post (you can always add extra photos of it) it helps avoid confusion over which is being discussed.

cheers

Tim

Posted by ChrisR on 02-04-2010 10:33
#6

The first photo made me think of Sarcophagidae too but the petiolate median vein in the second fly would be a *very* unusual (impossible?) feature for sarcophagids. I would try Ramonda spatulata for the second fly - the petiole, greenish colour and slightly shaded wing-veins would support that. I'm still a bit perplexed by the first fly though ... not sure about that :)

Edited by ChrisR on 02-04-2010 10:34

Posted by tim worfolk on 02-04-2010 10:48
#7

Of course, Ramonda spathulata, I thought I'd seen that one before.

Tim

Posted by Jason G on 02-04-2010 13:18
#8

Thanks for the welcome, Tim :)

ChrisR wrote:
The first photo made me think of Sarcophagidae too but the petiolate median vein in the second fly would be a *very* unusual (impossible?) feature for sarcophagids. I would try Ramonda spatulata for the second fly - the petiole, greenish colour and slightly shaded wing-veins would support that. I'm still a bit perplexed by the first fly though ... not sure about that :)


Maybe I need to colllect that one if I see it this year - both sexes were nearby, facing each other from about 1m.

Thanks for the second!