Thread subject: Diptera.info :: anthomyia pluvialis?

Posted by ff57 on 22-03-2010 21:33
#1

27-06-2009, Parco Agricolo Sud Milano - Cornaredo (Milan - Italy)
The classification is correct?

Thanks...

Posted by ff57 on 22-03-2010 21:34
#2

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Posted by ff57 on 22-03-2010 21:40
#3

This is another sample photographed in the same place on 13-09-09

Posted by javanerkelens on 22-03-2010 22:47
#4

I realy getting grazy sometimes with those A.pluvialis / procellaris...
Two female like to be A.pluvialis, but with the male i have doubt, but when found on the same place , we should presume it would be also A.pluvialis.
I realy have to examine those two species....:o
For now...Anthomyia pluvialis for the female
Anthomyia cf pluvialis for the male
Sorry....

Joke

Posted by Michael Ackland on 25-03-2010 16:10
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It isn't easy to name these Anthomyia species from photos. The locality also needs to be taken into account.
The 1st photo is probably a female of A. procellaris or bazini (rare) or quinquemaculata, this is a southern locality. The 2nd photo is probably A. pluvialis female. The 3rd is a male of procellaris or even bazini or quinquemaculata. There are other characcters one needs to look at in close up to determine the males including the genitalia and especially sternite 5 in profile. Females are even more difficult, so one shouldn't be too hopeful to be able to put a name to a photo. If you really want a definite det you will have to catch one and put it under the microscpe.