Thread subject: Diptera.info :: fly accumulation (canaries) -> Limnophora bipunctata
Posted by Michael Becker on 04-02-2010 22:26
#1
Hello,
these flies are from april vom a rocky slope on western Tenerife. They were rather small - perhaps 5mm.
I don't have much hope to get the genus or the species, but can at least the family be identified here? Muscidae?
Thanks,
Michael
Edited by Michael Becker on 07-02-2010 07:10
Posted by javanerkelens on 04-02-2010 23:44
#2
Limnophora..??
Joke van Erkelens
Posted by pwalter on 05-02-2010 00:46
#3
They are plotting a conspiracy against the photographer :D
Edited by pwalter on 05-02-2010 00:46
Posted by Michael Becker on 05-02-2010 06:18
#4
pwalter wrote:
They are plotting a conspiracy against the photographer :D
Indeed, when I came nearer with my camera, thy went away and there was - nothing.
Thank you for your suggestion
Limnophila. The pictures in the gallery look very similar. I saw on the Fauna Europaea, that there are many species in this genus, and many of them not widely distributed. So no chance to get more.
Greetings,
Michael
Posted by Xespok on 05-02-2010 07:12
#5
Limnophila (Limoniidae) -> Limnophora (Muscidae)
Posted by Michael Becker on 05-02-2010 19:40
#6
Thank you for your correction. I just was reading too quickly.
Michael
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-02-2010 23:38
#7
Michael, you can submit it in Gallery -
Limnophora bipunctata (Stein, 1908)
Posted by Michael Becker on 07-02-2010 07:09
#8
Hello Nikita,
thank you very much for the identification. I'm astonished, that an identification of the species is possible for this picture.
Michael
Posted by Michael Becker on 11-02-2010 17:24
#9
Hello Nikita,
I found another picture, taken some kilometers and two hours from the picture above. Is this also
Limnophora bimaculata? I also have a lateral picture, if needed.
Thanks,
Michael
Edited by Michael Becker on 11-02-2010 17:25
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-02-2010 19:28
#10
1. bipunctata, not bimaculata
2. No, it isn't bipunctata (bipuctata has male frons as wide as in female)
3. Most probably this one is tigrina, but there are some Canarish species I don't have and know only by literature.
4. Michael, I have bipunctata collected in Turkey only. If you can send me couple specimens from Canary, it will be very interesting to compare with Turkish material, to be sure that it is the same species!
Posted by Michael Becker on 11-02-2010 21:15
#11
1. bipunctata, not bimaculata
Yes, of course.
2. No, it isn't bipunctata [...] Most probably this one is tigrina,
Thanks for your suggestion. I will safe the picture as
cf. tigrina.
4. Michael, I have bipunctata collected in Turkey only. If you can send me couple specimens from Canary, it will be very interesting to compare with Turkish material, to be sure that it is the same species!
I would have been happy to help you, but I don't collect, I only take photos. And until I come back to the canaries, there will certainly pass one or two years.
Michael
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 11-02-2010 21:54
#12
It seems that have to visit Canary myself this year :D
Posted by Michael Becker on 12-02-2010 18:33
#13
Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
It seems that have to visit Canary myself this year :D
Yes, it's really nice. A third of the insects and the half of the plants of which I took photos were endemic.
Here is another picture, again 1 hour later. Is it this time also
Limnophora cf. tigrina, or is it again something else?
Thanks,
Michael
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 12-02-2010 23:06
#14
obsignata or tigrina
Posted by Michael Becker on 13-02-2010 07:04
#15
Thank you again for your answer. What's the difference between those two species?
Michael
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-02-2010 08:25
#16
These species are rather easy to distinguish by female (f. obsignata has presutural band as in male, tigrina - two black spots), but more dificult by males. In obsignata arista more long-plumose and post band not connected with black spot on scutellum. Plumosity invisible, second character requires posterior view - so, it is cf.
obsignata by jizz only.
Posted by Michael Becker on 14-02-2010 07:19
#17
Thank you again for your explanations, Nikita. I asked because I have another picture of this fly, but neither with a posterior view nor so well focused, that plumosity would be visible.
Michael
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 17-10-2010 20:24
#18
I as promised, I visited Canary myself.
I had some tiny doubts about ID of "fly accumulation":
to shiny the scutum is. Now my doubts turned into correction of ID: it is
Limnophora nitidithorax Stein,