Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Paregle audacula?

Posted by cyprinoid on 01-02-2010 18:41
#1

Norway, 31.07.09

Posted by cyprinoid on 01-02-2010 18:41
#2

2nd pic

Posted by javanerkelens on 01-02-2010 21:24
#3

If I'm not mistaken, i see 4 pd.
There are two species with 4 pd:
Egle ciliata / brevicornis
Egle ciliata has no ad on t2, and we can see a strong one on t2 on your photo.
Left only E.brevicornis...(has 1ad+1pd+2pv on t2)
But can't see clearly if there are hairs on the notopleuron depression (between the two notopleural setae)
And i only have E.ciliata to compare with.
Should be E.brevicornis, but i like to be convinced......and i'm not:S :D

Joke

Edited by javanerkelens on 01-02-2010 21:26

Posted by cyprinoid on 01-02-2010 22:24
#4

Great! This will be my first Egle then!

close up of thorax

Edited by cyprinoid on 01-02-2010 22:33

Posted by javanerkelens on 01-02-2010 23:40
#5

Hmmm...(bit blur and it seems bare)
I think Egle sp. is right, but i have doubt about the species, because i doubt if the last dc is rearly a dc or just a strong hair on the thorax, looking like a dc
And E.brevicornis should have about 6 av on tibia 3 and i see only 3 av.
And also the very long pv at end of hindfemur gives doubt.

I will pass :D

Joke

Posted by cyprinoid on 02-02-2010 08:29
#6

Thank you very much for all your help!

I was hoping that I could put a cf. in there but I will let it stand as Egle sp. then.


Posted by Michael Ackland on 02-02-2010 10:42
#7

It is not audacula, and I don't think it is Egle, mouth margin not projecting enough. Unfortunately the setae are indistinct and I can't distinguish the number of dcs

Posted by cyprinoid on 02-02-2010 11:40
#8

Ok, so the pic is not worth much then, I will do more collecting the forthcoming season.

Posted by javanerkelens on 02-02-2010 14:02
#9

That's why i could not find a matching species....it's not Egle at all :D

Joke

Posted by cyprinoid on 06-02-2010 22:56
#10

But is it Paregle, or should I file as 'Anthomyiidae' :|.

Posted by javanerkelens on 06-02-2010 23:48
#11

I can't see a av seta on the midtibia.....and Paregle should have.
I think it wil be difficult.
I looked at it several times, but with no result.
Maybe if we had a better view on the hindtibia, but the angle is just a bit wrong, even with an enlargement.
I think: Anthomyiidae :D

Joke