Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae, Muscina sp.?
Posted by cyprinoid on 02-01-2010 12:35
#1
Norway, 9-10 mm
Edited by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 14:14
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 02-01-2010 14:27
#2
very interesting!! Muscina sp. ??
Posted by cyprinoid on 02-01-2010 19:05
#3
Some other views, let me know if other angles can help.
Always fun to find something that is interesting to others.
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 10:49
#4
Could it be Phaonia? It reminds me of rufiventris.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 04-01-2010 12:43
#5
well.. the way the M vein bents it is from a typical Muscina.. wait for muscids--lovers.
Posted by javanerkelens on 04-01-2010 13:44
#6
Indeed very strainge one....
Nothing seems to fit...
Could you check several things:
Is arista bare or are most hairs broken
Could you look if there are for sure no little golden hairs under scutellum
How is the analvein going
Is there a pd bristle on the hindtibia or also broken
Are there interfrontals present or also broken
Joke :)
Edited by javanerkelens on 04-01-2010 13:45
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 13:45
#7
One could think that I find pleasure in constantly exhibiting a profound lack of wit.
Sorry Jorge :)
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 04-01-2010 13:49
#8
no problem, cyprinoid.
This fly is indeed very interesting. I agree with Joke.
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 13:52
#9
Joke. I will try to take pics showing what you ask, but everytime I breathe near it, something falls off :|
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 04-01-2010 13:53
#10
use a mask! :D lol
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 13:58
#11
With ref. to my topic in 'general queries' after brutally pinning the fly I tried to clean it up a little with a gentle stream of air :(
Edited by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 14:01
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 18:19
#12
arista.. long hairs at base short hairs be seen further out
scutellum... I can not see any hairs, maybe if they are so tiny that they can be confused with noise in the pic
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 18:22
#13
hind tibia
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 18:27
#14
interfrontals?!??! :o
Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 18:28
#15
head on
Posted by javanerkelens on 04-01-2010 21:34
#16
You did your best, but i can't make anythink of it..:o
Some possible yellow / yellowish flies :
Phaonia pallida...but has frontal vitta and occiput more yellow and eyes haired
Thricops diaphanus...has flagellomere dark
Achanthipter rohrelliformis....has 2-3 dc
Phaonia rufiventris...has flagellomere dark
Helina montana....has no prealar
Helina abdominalis !!....has antennae+palpi yellow and flagellomere darkened distally+scutellum and calli yellow+abdomen and legs yellow, .....but i don't know the species
And i can't deny, that the analvein seems very long and the fly has some simulairity with Pegomya species, but with 4 dc ...?.....I don't think
To make a long story.....short
I don't know:D
Joke
Edited by javanerkelens on 04-01-2010 21:34
Posted by cyprinoid on 05-01-2010 07:56
#17
Many thanks for your efforts Joke.
Hopefully we will get the answer some day.
Posted by cyprinoid on 05-01-2010 22:01
#18
For the record:
I am willing to send the specimen to anyone who feels they can take it on.