Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sarcophagidae

Posted by cyprinoid on 02-01-2010 12:32
#1

Impossible? Norway, maybe 12mm

Edited by cyprinoid on 02-01-2010 13:43

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 02-01-2010 13:07
#2

Sarcophagidae I think.

Posted by cyprinoid on 02-01-2010 13:44
#3

Did not think of that, been out of the game too long (as if I ever were in :D)

Thank you

Posted by Jaakko on 04-01-2010 10:16
#4

A female. The terminalia are red, so narrows the choices. For example Sarcophaga vagans has this feature and it should be fairly common in Norway. This is not an ID! I would need to see the terminalia from below to say sure.

Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 18:08
#5

terminalia in 3 angles

Posted by Jaakko on 04-01-2010 19:56
#6

Hmm...

Does it have 3 or 4 post sutural dorso-central bristles? I'm seeing 3 and the first is close to the suture - there also seems to be marginal bristles on the abdominal T3 and the T6 has angular incision, so looks pretty much like S. vagans.

Would need to see it under the scope to be 100% sure, here in North there are not so many other options.

Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 21:16
#7

4 post sutural dorso-central bristles, if I am doing it right.

Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 21:17
#8

abdomen

Posted by cyprinoid on 04-01-2010 21:18
#9

one more

Posted by Jaakko on 05-01-2010 12:10
#10

Ok, not vagans. Need to think about it.

Posted by Jaakko on 09-01-2010 19:45
#11

Ok. If there really is a dorsal fold on the tergite 5, this could be Sarcophaga (Parasarcophaga) albiceps. However, I don't have any reference material and the females are tricky.

Posted by Jan HC Velterop on 04-06-2010 20:35
#12

It is a female Sarcophaga (Sarcophaga) as there are 2 marginalia on tergite 3 (the second visible, T3), which are missing with S. albiceps. The reddish coloration of the T6 is quite usual. Common interpretation is that this is dependent on temperature during pupation. Also S. albiceps females have a siderow of 5 strong marginals on T6, very distinctive.