Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Anthomyia? (canaries) -> A. quinquemaculata

Posted by Michael Becker on 31-12-2009 17:21
#1

Hello,

this fly is from april from northeastern Tenerife. I don't have any hope for the species here, but is genus Anthomyia correct?

Thanks,
Michael

Edited by Michael Becker on 01-01-2010 17:03

Posted by paqui on 31-12-2009 18:05
#2

no idea, I just write the recorded ones (until 2002)
- A. confusanea
- A. procellaris
- A. pluvialis
- A. xanthopus (endemic from the islands in Spain)
Good luck :)

Posted by Michael Becker on 01-01-2010 08:50
#3

Hello paqui,

then I suppose you agree with the genus Athomyia. I think this is all we get from the the photo only.

Thanks
Michael

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 01-01-2010 10:37
#4

If I should make a choice within this list, I would chose A. procellaris, because the others don't match this one.

Posted by Michael Ackland on 01-01-2010 14:01
#5

It is Anthomyia quinquemaculata Macq. A. procellaris does not occur in the Canary isles.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 01-01-2010 15:09
#6

Michael, welcome back! You have "hundreds" of anthomyiids waiting for you. :)

Posted by Michael Becker on 01-01-2010 17:02
#7

Michael Ackland wrote:
It is Anthomyia quinquemaculata Macq. A. procellaris does not occur in the Canary isles.


Hello Michael, hello Stephane,

thank you very much for your replies. This really is much more than I expected. I have to admit, that the Anthoymia species in the gallery look all exactly the same for me. What characteristics do you look for here?

Thanks,
Michael

Posted by Michael Ackland on 01-01-2010 18:02
#8

In this particular case (Canary I.) Anthomyia species are: confusanea, quinquemaculata, tempestatum, xanthopus. Only the middle two are black and white patterned species. A. tempestatum has a different black spot over the wing base. Of course if procellaris should occur in the Canaries but not yet discovered, I could be wrong. In Europe both quinnquemaculata and procellaris (and others) occur. The females in EDurope (as this is) are differentiated by small characters not visible in a photo, the males have different genitalia, especially 5th sternite in profile.

Posted by Michael Ackland on 01-01-2010 18:04
#9

In this particular case (Canary I.) Anthomyia species are: confusanea, quinquemaculata, tempestatum, xanthopus. Only the middle two are black and white patterned species. A. tempestatum has a different black spot over the wing base. Of course if procellaris should occur in the Canaries but not yet discovered, I could be wrong. In Europe both quinnquemaculata and procellaris (and others) occur. The females in EDurope (as this is) are differentiated by small characters not visible in a photo, the males have different genitalia, especially 5th sternite in profile.

Posted by Michael Becker on 02-01-2010 07:16
#10

The females in EDurope (as this is) are differentiated by small characters not visible in a photo, the males have different genitalia, especially 5th sternite in profile.


Thank you for the explanation. This fly was rather frequent in the east of Tenerifa, a region that should rather often be searched by biologist. So I take it as granted that is indeed A. quinquemaculata, and not procellaris.

Michael

Posted by paqui on 02-01-2010 17:27
#11

oh, i had a problem with the synonyms and the cells in my lists´ file, you´re right, M. Ackland, sorry for the confusion :|
Thanks again