Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Coelopidae; Malacomyia sciomyzina...ID'd by G.Pennards / S.Lebrun
Posted by Roger Thomason on 29-10-2009 00:41
#1
Looks like
C.pilipes, but legs and top of head seem to be different colour from previous finds....maybe something else altogether????
Only 1 photo. Maybe even a Sphaerocerid ?
EDIT; Changed Heading, Was: Coelopa pilipes??
Edited by Roger Thomason on 31-10-2009 09:28
Posted by KWQ on 29-10-2009 18:39
#2
I've once seen a coelopid under a microscope (in our fauna the only species is
Coelopa frigida though), and it resembled a sphaerocerid. And wouldn't
pilipes suggest more hairy legs?
This one brings first the genus
Scathophaga to my mind.
Posted by KWQ on 29-10-2009 19:05
#3
But on the second look I rather think that the head and the antenna are not particularly "scathophagidish"...
I'll give up and leave this to the "pundits".
Posted by Roger Thomason on 30-10-2009 01:32
#4
Hi Kaj, you say
C.frigida is the only one recorded in Finland. This was supposed to be the case with Shetland also, but I have found
C.pilipes here also (See similar threads at bottom of page). I have only seen males before and wondered if this was maybe a female of the species?? Odd looking fly though, sort of cross between Coelopidae, Sphaeroceridae with a bit of Scathophagidae thrown in too.
Maybe someone will come up with an ID....?
Regards Roger
Edited by Roger Thomason on 30-10-2009 01:33
Posted by Roger Thomason on 30-10-2009 14:47
#5
Sorry to be a bore with this thread, but, too windy for flies here at the moment :|.
Don't suppose it could be Heterocheilidae:
Heterocheila buccata which I have seen at Scatsta Airport before. I put some photo's in the Gallery last year, it looks similar?????
Here are a couple more photo's taken last year which I have assumed to be
H.buccata for comparison
Posted by Roger Thomason on 30-10-2009 14:47
#6
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Posted by Gerard Pennards on 30-10-2009 15:04
#7
Hey Rogaldine! :D
If the last picture is the same individual it's easy, because that's a Heleomyzidae.
If not, it might be the third species of the family Coelopidae, and that one's called Malacomyia sciomyzina!
Greetings
Posted by Roger Thomason on 30-10-2009 16:20
#8
Hey Geraldine
What are you doing on here..you should be up to your neck in nappies....skiving huh.
Those are 3 different flies taken at Scatsta at various times. I assumed (wrongly again) that they were all the same kind...confusion reigns again. In fact looking at the last last picture, that was taken on my greenhouse and is a Heleomyzidae..(MIS-FILED).please disregard that one, I'm an idiot :|..Anyone know if it is
M.sciomyzina.
Another crap day in Shetland....wind/rain :|
Roger :)
Edited by Roger Thomason on 30-10-2009 16:23
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 30-10-2009 23:02
#9
Fly 1 : for sure Coelopidae. The thoracic dorsum seems not flat, the frons is rufous as the abdomen partially, the scutellum is triangular, not short : I think it is
Malacomyia sciomyzina as Gerard suggested.
Fly 2: should be
Heterocheila buccata (mouth edge not protruding here, so not Coelopidae).
Fly 3 : I think Heleomyzidae too (a well visible costal break, so not Coelopidae, Heterocheleidae or Helcomyzidae).
Posted by Roger Thomason on 31-10-2009 01:36
#10
Thanks Stephane for confirming Gerard's suggestion, (Good spot Gerard)..another unrecorded species for Shetland.
Didn't think I'd seen this one before :).
Regards Roger :)