Thread subject: Diptera.info :: More help needed!

Posted by jezlee on 18-08-2009 21:28
#1

Hello all – sorry to be such a pest, but I'm new to diptera! Any pointers for me with this one? :)

Posted by Roger Thomason on 18-08-2009 22:44
#2

Anthomyiidae..I think..one for Michael, best of luck, hard to ID.

Posted by jezlee on 18-08-2009 22:46
#3

Roger Thomason wrote:
Anthomyiidae..I think..one for Michael, best of luck, hard to ID.



Thanks again, Roger, for your help - where do you start with identifying flies? Are certain families more easily identifiable than others? :)

Edited by jezlee on 18-08-2009 22:46

Posted by Roger Thomason on 18-08-2009 22:56
#4

You're asking the wrong person Jez..try Jorge, he's very good. I got 5 out of 5 right today so far, if this one is right...not normal for me..:| .ask anyone on the site in fact...but not me.

Jorge, you owe me Brownie Points for the recommendation :).

Posted by cyprinoid on 19-08-2009 07:48
#5

Hello Jez.
I am also new to diptera but I am starting to get a slight understanding of some aspects of it, or at least it's not like I am on a different planet anymore. Saying that I got the hang of it would be a huge overstatement and most people here would choke on their morning coffee (I too am a pest :)).

'INTKEY: British Insects: Diptera Families' is great to play with, you can use it to get to family level. http://delta-intk.../ident.htm.

Anatomical Atlas of Flies: http://www.ento.c...y/fly.html

'Overviews' Section of this forum is also very nice.

Edited by cyprinoid on 19-08-2009 07:49

Posted by jezlee on 19-08-2009 09:40
#6

Roger Thomason wrote:
You're asking the wrong person Jez..try Jorge, he's very good. I got 5 out of 5 right today so far, if this one is right...not normal for me..:| .ask anyone on the site in fact...but not me.

Jorge, you owe me Brownie Points for the recommendation :).


One thing is certain, Roger - you know more about this subject than I do ... :D

Posted by jezlee on 19-08-2009 09:42
#7

cyprinoid wrote:
Hello Jez.
I am also new to diptera but I am starting to get a slight understanding of some aspects of it, or at least it's not like I am on a different planet anymore. Saying that I got the hang of it would be a huge overstatement and most people here would choke on their morning coffee (I too am a pest :)).


Hello to you, cyprinoid (I'm sure that's not your real name!) and thank you for your pointers - I will go and have a look at them in more detail when I have time ... :)

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 19-08-2009 11:00
#8

well, try to get The European Families of the Diptera

Identification, diagnosis, biology
Pjotr Oosterbroek
208 pages, b&w illus.
KNNV Publishing
I suggest http://www.pemboo...mon.co.uk/ --- nice prices, and very good service. It has a huge Diptera collection.

Also you MUST take a look at the threads in Overviews section to recognize/study the chaetotaxy of the flies.
Link: http://diptera.in...orum_id=23


Posted by jezlee on 19-08-2009 11:50
#9

jorgemotalmeida wrote:
well, try to get The European Families of the Diptera

Identification, diagnosis, biology
Pjotr Oosterbroek
208 pages, b&w illus.
KNNV Publishing
I suggest http://www.pemboo...mon.co.uk/ --- nice prices, and very good service. It has a huge Diptera collection.

Also you MUST take a look at the threads in Overviews section to recognize/study the chaetotaxy of the flies.
Link: http://diptera.in...orum_id=23




Thanks for that, Jorge - I will see if I can raid my piggy bank and get that book! By the way – any idea on the fly pic I posted? :)

Posted by javanerkelens on 19-08-2009 12:00
#10

I think it wil be just Anthomyiidae sp.
Anthomyiidae is very difficult to do (mostly genital) or with photos from all sites and good visible hairs on thorax and legs...etc.
Maybe also look for the most genaral flies on my website (are just flies from the Netherlands, but most of them are also in the UK)
diptera

Joke van Erkelens

Edited by javanerkelens on 19-08-2009 12:02

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 19-08-2009 12:12
#11

I'd go for anthomyiid too. But sometimes with some photos it is not easy to split antho from muscids. ;)

Posted by javanerkelens on 19-08-2009 12:19
#12

And don't forget...Fanniidae!
I almost post a threat this morning for unknown Delia sp. and when i post it.....i saw it was Fanniidae :D
So delete quicky, before every one could have a good laugh......

Joke :D

Posted by jezlee on 19-08-2009 12:34
#13

javanerkelens wrote:
I think it wil be just Anthomyiidae sp.
Anthomyiidae is very difficult to do (mostly genital) or with photos from all sites and good visible hairs on thorax and legs...etc.
Maybe also look for the most genaral flies on my website (are just flies from the Netherlands, but most of them are also in the UK)
diptera

Joke van Erkelens


Thanks, Joke – that's an informative and well put together site you have there! I must try to remember to do other shots of the fly now, not just the one! :)

Edited by jezlee on 19-08-2009 12:34

Posted by Jan HC Velterop on 20-08-2009 18:25
#14

Looking at the border of the mouth, which is prominently hooked forwards - the 3 post DC - the 1 presut.AC - the small postsut.AC and the av bristle on tibia 2,
I am thinking it is a female of Paregle audacula - the P. radicum auctt. Although I am not a specialist in this family. Jan Velterop, Enschede NL